Gasai Yuno vs Nagisa Shiota

[Xanxussama1010]

This is death Battle between Yandere murder and cute assassin boy.

Fight at rooftop of building that no other people.

Yuno on human base form (no god power). She has axe, knife and katana as weapons.

Nagisa has real combat knives and stungun as weapons. He also wear Class E's special cloth in this fight.

Both on bloodlust and haven't any knowledge about each other.

Who is the winner!?

 

[Kirbyelmejor]

I think that Nagisa take this because he is more intelligent and is a bit more durable.

 

[GreatestSin]

i give it to nagisa too, he can also stun yuno in close combat easily via his clap-technique ^_^

 

[Xanxussama1010]

ok,now

Nagisa:2

Yuno:0

 

[Xmark12]

Giving this to Nagisa via the things people said on the top.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

nagisa for same reesons as well...lol

 

[Xanxussama1010]

Thanks ma

now

Nagisa:4

Yuno:0

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Nagisa from Island Arc onward should take this with better skills. He can hide his bloodlust and has that clap technique

 

[Xanxussama1010]

Thanks

now

Nagisa:5

Yuno:0

I think I know who's the winner,but we need two more vote to Nagisa for make this fight considered valid.

 

[Battlemania]

For reasons above, I vote for nagisa.

 

[Super_Goku_Roku]

Nagisa wins this by the highly convincing arguments.


PRAISE THE FIRST COMMENT.

 

[Xanxussama1010]

got it!

Unanimously 7-0

Nagisa is the winner!

Thank you for every comments.

 

[Kirbyelmejor]

Well, im going to add Nagisa´s victory in their pages

 

[Kirbyelmejor]

Should i close this thread?

 

[Xanxussama1010]

Should i close this thread?

Yes,please close it.

 

[Kirbyelmejor]

Well, i cant close this, but you can

 

[LTB2000]

Nagisa for reasons above.

 

[Pisan]

Wait, I'm confused.. In prior combat, in intellegence, Yuno takes the cake on this one. In actual combot without smarts, the clapping and creating somewhat hallucinations will not really be affective.. If Yuno is bloodlusted (which her trigger will have to deal with Yuki to fully become bloodlusted to the max) Yuno would be passed insane. In since this is going to be going off physical, Nagasia doesn't have the stamina of Yuno, no where near it. Stamina wise, Yuno will outlast Nagisa with no problem. Now, if you talk about durability, they have the same (obviously humans here). Let's talk about weapons. I doubt Nagisa is hitting Yuno with a stun gun unless it's point blank range. If they are known of each others' weapons then Yuno will instantly stay far back and set traps. In since they are on a roof, Yuno and Nagisa will have to use their area in consideration. (What Assassins have to do to be assassins. So Nagisa will have to scout out the area along side of Yuno before the fight even starts). Yuno will scout too, experince wise, if this is the second Yuno, just in human form, her battle experince trumps Nagisa's. She fought a guy with a diary who was almost perfect hand to hand combatan. Aka, Marco. Knowing the future+good hand to hand combat>a lot of normal fighters. Yuno had to hold back against the couple, but still could of won, just had to worry about Yuki. When the second time came, everyone knew Yuno was going to win that fight against Marco and his fiance and she was all banged up. But, Marco took the phone and went towards Yuki. If they were to actually fight, even being banged up badly she would of still won.. All of what she was doing was apart of her plan, him getting the diary and everything.. So she's obviously smarter than Nagisa. Saying this, Nagisa with his fighting style would not work well against Yuno. At this point, with her smarts and not being able to listen to reason, and she is competely reckless with her body but still able to think, she can beat Nagisa. Nagisa doesn't know how to fight someone like that. Nagisa is a 15 year old boy with intellegence in assassination. He has high intellegence, yes, but not all knowing in fighting. Nagisa would be scared to fight her. Even if Nagisa was bloodlusted, he wouldn't know how to fight her unless he actually tried fighting her. By that time, yuno would already considered so much things, already figured out a plan to throw him off the roof. Yuno would go head on first, we all know that and Nagisa would be forced to go defensive mode which is the best thing for Nagasia in since he practiced most in defense. One defensive stance, Yuno figures it out, stops then figures out a way to catch Nagisa off guard. Nagisa isn't some ultimate scenser, he is a human being who is 15 with high intellengence in fighting and denfense. All Yuno would really need to do is get Nagisa in attack mode, which Yuno will win after that. Small knife? Very close combat, like pretty much in grab length? I think Yuno can win that. It might even be a stale mate at this point if it really comes down to it. On the other hand, yuno would always have a knife ready to stab her opponent, no matter where she put it, she will have it. And we know Nagisa will want to get rid of that axe, first priority. Once he gets close and personal, he takes away axe, in a grab motion with Yuno, Yuno pulls out knife secrectly, Nagisa doesn't feel it, because he's just a 15 year old guy with high intellegence in fighting, Yuno gets ready to stab Nagisa in the stomach. Yeah, Nagisa can "see" Yuno reaching for it, but I don't think Nagisa is faster than Yuno. You will also have to take speed in consideration. If we talk about speed, they possibly have the same speed... The time she sees Yuno reaching, it's already close to her stomach. Not enough time to deflect it. Taking away one axe means that Nagisa has one arm of Yuno, and Nagisa will need two to take the axe away. Yuno lets the Axe being taken while in grapple mode, Yuno stabs Nagisa, yuno wins. That's how it's going to go down. The only way Nagisa will think he will have a chance is close range, especially against that axe. That's also where his strong suite is, and grappling is his best strong suite too. Now, taking away the axe along side of first arm with the axe with also holding onto her arm would take two hands. Now, let's consider Nagisa's legs. If he were to use his legs to get the knife away, that would just make it worst.. That would just open her body up more.. Anyhow, i've been in real life fights and I know the logic in fights like these. Nagisa would just be bloodlusted, not insane like Yuno. Yuno would not care about her own safety, so this is the tactic which she would use. If her arm would be broken, she would not care, still get the kill off. She never really cared about her safety, only if Yukiteru was okay. That's competly it. So tell me why is Nagisa winning... Everyone is making Nagisa more powerful than she really is... Freaking Hwoarang from Tekken can beat Nagisa in a fight, lol. Asuka can beat Nagisa.. If you are worrying about class and how her fighting style is, it kinda won't really matter in the grapple mode at this point.. (Grapple mode meaning that Nagisa has Yuno's right arm or left, which ever she has her axe on.) I know you people will ask "How do you know it will take two hands? How do you know she will even take the axe first?" Nagisa will look at the surroundings, look at the axe, katana and if they are allowed to know each other's weapons, he will know that Yuno has a knife hidden. So one, he will be extra cautious. In since he will be extra cautious, he would want to take away the axe first, but even before that.. He will see how insane Yuno is and how reckless she would be able to be, but he wouldn't know that even though she's insane, she is tactical too. So Yuno has an upperhand in that department, element of suprise. You never said they had prep time at all, if Yuno had prep time, she wouldn't have those weps, the girl would just buy a machine gun and blast Nagisa, but going back on topic.. Yuno has element of surprise, and so much other physical things that can outmatch Nagisa. More powerful than Yuno strength wise? No way.. Not possible. Upper body strength, Yuno can beat, not much but she can beat him. Even though Nagisa seems weak in physical strength, he actually is a lot stronger than a lot of people for his age, but even so, he isn't human peak strength or something, still normal 15 year old strength.. Anyhow, if you want me to use 347 other scenerios that will happen, I can gladly lay all of them out. 264 Yuno wins in, the 81 ends in a tie. 2, Nagisa wins but is badly hurt in some way shape or form.

 

[Xmark12]

a big wall of text.

TL;DR: This dude supports Yuno.

P.S: This thread should be closed, since this has been necro'd.

 

[Pisan]

TL;DR: This dude supports Yuno.

P.S: This thread should be closed, since this has been necro'd.

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What? Let me sum it up for you, there is kinda no way nagisa can win that fight, and everyone is just going by the crowd. There was no debate even used, someone was going to vote for Yuno, but went with the crowd.. Is that how debating even works? No one gave clear examples how Nagisa can win, and actually can prove that those moves/techniques can work on Yuno gasai. I find this topic biased from the start.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

the clapping and creating somewhat hallucinations will not really be affective

Holy shit Pisan, that was probably the best fight analysis I've ever seen.

The only question I have is about the clap stunner. The way the technique works is that it overloads a person's fight-or-flight response by taking advantage of their increased mental wavelength (which can be caused by either intense focus or heightened emotion). If Yuno is focused enough on the fight to dodge Nagisa's attacks anyway, or if her insanity is affecting her emotional state, I feel like that could make her vulnerable to the stunner. Nagisa definitely has the reflexes to pull it off, compared to Yuno, and could probably make it into melee range in time at the start of combat.

If you think it wouldn't happen that way, i would definitely vote for Yuno for your reasons, and I greatly respect your desire to use comprehensive analysis of every factor.

 

[Monikaforever]

Yuno can easly cut a person in half with a knife, she is far stronger than Nagisa.


Vote for Yuno

 

[Monikaforever]

bump

 

[Xanxussama1010]

Since there're argument about Pisan's dubunked that didn't clear. So I chose to edit this comment to insert my debunk to counter his argument.

First, I think Pisan is underestimate Nagisa so much by repeatly said "he's just a 15 year old" again and again, by he forgot that Nagisa is a 15 years old guy who was trained by the greatest assassin of the world and the top member of goverment who specialize in combats. Not just a mere 15 yesrs old boy.

Second, Nagisa can reading/discernment people. He can just look on Yuno and tell that "She is really strong and dangerous" and can decide about best way to deal with her.

Third, from second, what choice that he decide to deal with her, fight her face to face? No way, he should know that he can't win agiainst her with that. Nagisa specialize in assasination, so his decision should be escape from rooftop, find the place to hide in building, hide his bloodlust and for a change for a surpise attack that can finish her before she can react, like he do when he defeated 4 classmates in a row.

Forth, Nagisa used to defeated several people who stronger than him. Such as Takaoka, an assassin who use whip, Karma and several trained militaries. Especially for last one which I pretty sure that they stronger and have experience on combat more than Yuno. So Nagisa weaker strength is not the point. Nagisa's quick mind did allow him to win against a tougher opponent (who is also not a slouch in the smarts department either).

Fifth, Class E's special cloths was designed to have great resistance with protect wearers in several situation. And Nagisa can survive from ruthless attack by God of Death who is far stronger than basline 9-B (Whick I pretty sure that he far stronger than Yuno too). So I don't think one stab from Yuno can take down Nagisa. And when she do, It will let Nagisa a change to use assassination technique to finish her.

Sixth, Of cause Nagisa Clap Stunner should work on her, Yuno isn't Karma who can negate it by bite his own tongue. She don't know about this technique and don't know about how it work, so Clap Stunner + Stungun is enough to finish her.

And this is my argument about why Nagisa is the winner. So I don't see how the result of match should be changed. But if you still think this match is not fair and need to do a rematch. You can do it, I don't mind.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

This dude spent God-only-knows-how-long typing out that analysis. I think this thread deserves another look.

Plus I really want Yuno to have a victory.