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Sasaki Kojiro RoR
Garou OPM
Skill Match.
Stats Equal. No Insta Kill Passive Hax. No stat amping.
Most compatible versions for both.
Monster Garou before 4 arms version.
Vs
Sasaki at his best.
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Please do. Thanks.Don't trust Kojiro's page it sucks actual dogshit. I'll list his skill feats soon.
Nah, keep it.Buuuttttt.... if majority wishes I can keep dura neg off.
No, dura neg is fine. It's a part of Garou's skill set and it's just Martial Arts so it wouldn't be right to take that away.Ahh, I meant no insta kill passive. I'll properly say that. Buuuttttt.... if majority wishes I can keep dura neg off.
What's the problem? I think it's a pretty fun match-up.This is a set up and I hate you.
This is a battle of who can evolve and adapt further. Unfortunately, as Garou would be the first person to evolve, he would have a leg up, even if it is momentarily. Garou would use this to his advantage, pummeling Kojiro and taking out his ability to fight back instantly.At least his other shit barring evolution is. He probably won't be able to predict Garou adapting his skills but Kojiro's just gonna do the same thing the moment he starts getting pressured so it doesn't really matter if he can't.
Predicted and dodged before Garou even tries.This is a battle of who can evolve and adapt further. Unfortunately, as Garou would be the first person to evolve, he would have a leg up, even if it is momentarily. Garou would use this to his advantage, pummeling Kojiro and taking out his ability to fight back instantly.
Kojiro proceeds to read literal thousands-millions-countless steps ahead of Garou and neg diffs.And if Kojiro attempts to evolve and counterattack, Garou would be able to read his moves many steps ahead and counter with over 2x the damage added with over 2 forms of durability negation.
Bullshit cause Cosmic Garou isn't on the profile and why would he be the one being used here.There is also Garou's 'supernatural' abilities, such as Nuclear Fission Fist which isn't something Kojiro can just 'evolve' to counter.
See above.Also, there is nothing stopping Garou from, after observing Kojiro and his ability, from using a 'Mode' of him, copying him, then surpassing his usage of Thousand-Image Defense.
No problem. Just, my friend told me some stuff about RoR and that series seems absolutely cracked and crazy when it comes to skill. Like, there's definitely shit there that puts Garou to shame. Tbh I was expecting a very quick skill stomp.What's the problem? I think it's a pretty fun match-up.
My points still stand other than the NFF arguments.1. Cosmic Garou isn't on the profile.
2. Of course Kojiro can't counter nuclear fission why the hell would Cosmic Garou be the version being used.
Just like, putting this out there, of course Cosmic Garou stomps. He can literally just throw a ******* nuke at Kojiro. That's clown-worthy.
It is cracked, but, Cosmic Garou is even more cracked and isn't even on the profile so I'd appreciate it if he isn't brought up. His skill goes outside of skill and literally goes into the territory of just throwing a Black Hole at Kojiro, to which point it isn't a skill debate anymore.No problem. Just, my friend told me some stuff about RoR and that series seems absolutely cracked and crazy when it comes to skill. Like, there's definitely shit there that puts Garou to shame. Tbh I was expecting a very quick skill stomp.
Reading through it, though, seems to be more competitive than I expected. May comment soon.
What is predicted? Kojiro sees some outcomes of the fight, and picks a good starting point. Garou adapts to that and capitalizes on that. Is there proof that he can just spam TID like that?Predicted and dodged before Garou even tries.
Is there proof that he can see up to that much? Seems like NLF.Kojiro proceeds to read literal thousands-millions-countless steps ahead of Garou and neg diffs.
See above.
Garou stating that the techniques he copies get honed to perfection applies to earlier keys, as we blatantly see it time and time again. It's not something that sprung up once he used CFM.
No they don't because Kojiro's Analytical Prediction is also gonna get orders of magnitudes better than Garou can copy it in like... a couple seconds flat. It already is SEVERAL orders of magnitudes above anything Garou has shown outside of Cosmic Fear Mode, so like, Kojiro ain't even gonna need to evolve that hard lmao. It's gonna take Garou a while to evolve his skills against somebody who already skill stomps him several times over before he even got the chance to process not being skill stomped.My points still stand other than the NFF arguments.
Garou stating that the techniques he copies get honed to perfection applies to earlier keys, as we blatantly see it time and time again. It's not something that sprung up once he used CFM.
Thousand-Image Defense has no time limit and is nigh-passive.What is predicted? Kojiro sees some outcomes of the fight, and picks a good starting point. Garou adapts to that and capitalizes on that. Is there proof that he can just spam TID like that?
Countless statement.Is there proof that he can see up to that much? Seems like NLF.
Is TID not just a Martial Art style? What is stopping him from copying it the way he did to these 9 styles- with a glance, and this too- also mastering it after a glanceNo they don't because Kojiro's Analytical Prediction is also gonna get orders of magnitudes better than Garou can copy it in like... a couple seconds flat. It already is SEVERAL orders of magnitudes above anything Garou has shown outside of Cosmic Fear Mode, so like, Kojiro ain't even gonna need to evolve that hard lmao. It's gonna take Garou a while to evolve his skills against somebody who already skill stomps him several times over before he even got the chance to process not being skill stomped.
No, it isn't. Kojiro actually does use a Sword Style known as the Ganyru Style, which uses a sword. Garou doesn't use a sword lmao.Is TID not just a Martial Art style? What is stopping him from copying it the way he did to these 9 styles- with a glance, and this too- also mastering it after a glance
That's cool, but the truth is that once Garou seems Kojiro do it once, Garou would instantly master it.Thousand-Image Defense has no time limit and is nigh-passive.
Countless statement.
Thousands statement.
What's he gonna see? There ain't nothing to see my guy Thousand-Image Defense isn't a martial arts style.That's cool, but the truth is that once Garou seems Kojiro do it once, Garou would instantly master it.
After that, it's back on an even playing field with just straight hands, which Garou has a huge advantage with due to his durability negation techniques.
Thousand-Image Defense is just a skill Kojiro inherently has that gives him bullshit analytical abilities. It was never explained how he cultivated it he's just an absurd combat genius.
Garou has copied something extremely similar (innate ability that's not a fighting style, and isn't something you can just "see". He just experienced it once)What's he gonna see? There ain't nothing to see my guy Thousand-Image Defense isn't a martial arts style.
Also this shit ain't even on his profile lmao.Garou has copied something extremely similar (innate ability that's not a fighting style, and isn't something you can just "see". He just experienced it once)
Metal Bat's Fighting Spirit
Because the fact that Garou's is a perfect copy, and the more he uses it, the better it gets. Just to lowball Garou's copying and say it's just a perfect copy not factoring in how it becomes better, the TID becomes a non-factor, meaning the fight carries on as if none of them have it.Proof Garou can perfect an ability that's been cultivated nigh-constantly over the course of 400 years to the point Kojiro can't just... counter him? He's dealt with people that can predict his predictions before like... How is Garou copying the ability finna help when Kojiro literally just does what Garou copied but does it better because he's literally just better.
I mean, neither are half the stuff you mentioned for Kojiro, but here we are.Also this shit ain't even on his profile lmao.
Yeah but that's not proof he can copy something that's been tempered for 400 years dawg. That's like, a big fat NLF on your part. Big fat one.Because the fact that Garou's is a perfect copy, and the more he uses it, the better it gets. Just to lowball Garou's copying and say it's just a perfect copy not factoring in how it becomes better, the TID becomes a non-factor, meaning the fight carries on as if none of them have it.
How does it being trained for 400 years make him unable to perfectly copy it?Yeah but that's not proof he can copy something that's been tempered for 400 years dawg. That's like, a big fat NLF on your part. Big fat one.
Why would years change anything? You have to prove that the amount of years that an ability has been around for limits Garou's power mimicry.And before you say anything pull up with the proof of Garou being able to copy an ability that's been constantly tempered for over 400 years. Like, before you even form the thought to respond find me a power copying feat of Garou copying something with that many years or more on its belt.
What the hell? I don't have to prove that it's not limited to age. You have to prove that it is, as you're the one who made the claim that Garou can't copy it due to it being around for 400 years. If you can't do that, it's burden of proof and I'd advise you to drop that specific argument, as it's fallacious.Because he'd need a feat of being able to copy skills/styles as tempered as Kojiro's and assuming he could do so without a feat is NLF.
And 400 is bigger than 80 right? I'm not just pulling that out of my ass?