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All of those are on a sword that only works on spirits actually try reading it..
Edit: readin git to reading it.
Edit: readin git to reading it.
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Fox Jinchuuriki vs Vampire
- Thread starter Hagane_no_Saiyajin
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Durability Negation, Death Manipulation, and Non-Physical Interaction with Kokorowatari sword (Can cut through any supernatural being and kill them with a single scratch, including ghosts and selectively tangible beings, useless otherwise, as it simply phases through targets without dealing any harm to them)
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First of all, no need to name call, it only hurts your credibility.
Second of all, are you honestly going to say Naruto isn't a supernatural being? It says including ghosts, not limited to. If you want to accuse and insult someone of not reading the page, try doing it yourself first.
Second of all, are you honestly going to say Naruto isn't a supernatural being? It says including ghosts, not limited to. If you want to accuse and insult someone of not reading the page, try doing it yourself first.
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Name call? what did I call you?
I have that is why it is copied and pasted and yes Naruto is not a supernatural being he is a human.
I have that is why it is copied and pasted and yes Naruto is not a supernatural being he is a human.
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@Rocker1189
You called him a 'git'.
You called him a 'git'.
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That was a mistype I wanted to type "reading it" and missed the space.
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Well thats an unfortunate typo lol. Its a pretty weak insult regardless so no hard feelings.
....... Naruto being classed as a human by his own universe's standards doesn't mean he isn't supernatural. The guy descends from interdimensional space aliens, has a circultory system with energy that comes from a magic fruit and a giant energy monster sealed inside him. How is he not supernatural?
....... Naruto being classed as a human by his own universe's standards doesn't mean he isn't supernatural. The guy descends from interdimensional space aliens, has a circultory system with energy that comes from a magic fruit and a giant energy monster sealed inside him. How is he not supernatural?
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Because at the end of the day his body is still human. I can see it being said that it works on Kurama but on Naruto himself definitely not. Also aliens are not supernatural...
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His body which has a second circulatory system that produces a supernatural energy? Like I said, human in his verse doesn't stop him from being supernatural. Humans in Monogatari don't have superpowers meaning Naruto is not a simple human, in other words, supernatural.
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From that description and comparing it to Monogatari, Kokorowatari wouldn't affect Naruto, but it would affect the energy monster sealed inside him. Is that worth noting? Would it have any affects on Naruto himself/his powers?
In Nekomonogatari Kuro, a girl had fused with an aberration, and Kokorowatari killed the aberration while leaving the girl unharmed.
In Nekomonogatari Kuro, a girl had fused with an aberration, and Kokorowatari killed the aberration while leaving the girl unharmed.
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Was she a normal human aside from the aberration? Because Naruto is of questionable normalcy.
Ignoring that, if the blade affects Kurama, Naruto dies too since Kurama dying means no more chakra cloak making him Low 6-B/6-B. No more Kurama also kills Naruto due to the Biju's absence from his Jinchuriki. So regardless of whether it affects Naruto himself, he still dies as a side effect of the blade.
Ignoring that, if the blade affects Kurama, Naruto dies too since Kurama dying means no more chakra cloak making him Low 6-B/6-B. No more Kurama also kills Naruto due to the Biju's absence from his Jinchuriki. So regardless of whether it affects Naruto himself, he still dies as a side effect of the blade.
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She's definitely a human, not quite a normal human, but still a human and hence not supernatural. She does extraordinary feats (moving beyond perception, severing her emotions and having them manifest as aberrations) but none of these were granted to her or are said to make her non-human. There's a few characters that have vastly superhuman feats (9-A, subsonic) but are still considered "human".
Naruto is very questionable, but I'd err on the side of him not being affected personally but Kurama would be.
Given that Kissshot could kill Naruto, could Naruto kill Kissshot? Is his atomization through sheer AP or through hax?
Naruto is very questionable, but I'd err on the side of him not being affected personally but Kurama would be.
Given that Kissshot could kill Naruto, could Naruto kill Kissshot? Is his atomization through sheer AP or through hax?
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He doesn't have atomization, just vaping things through AP.
Not seeing a calc for her so assuming baseline, Naruto has a roughly x4 AP.
Not seeing a calc for her so assuming baseline, Naruto has a roughly x4 AP.
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Maybe, I think his best attack to counter it is Rasenshuriken which attacks on a cellular level. Not sure if that gets past Mid-High.
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No, it merely invalidates how "a Hokage took years to do it". Don't take creating a technique and put it on the same level as learning it. Not to mention you still missing my point completely, he's using the barest connections to make a pretty baseless claim.M3X said:
As for her sword, Kyuubi should totally poof up if that thing hits him. Not too sure about the part of him dying. That said, all Shinobu needs to do is Evade or leave some of her remaining and she can Regen right back.
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It makes a crap ton of tiny wind blades that destroy the targets cells. A diagram of it showed it slicing through the individual cells and later turned one Pain's paths into liquid/dust or something.
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If that doesn't actually reduce the target into a pile of cells/dust/ashes I don't see why that couldn't be regenerated from.
If it only turns part of the body into liquid/dust then it'd be similar to having most of her body exploded, pretty easy to regenerate from.
If it only turns part of the body into liquid/dust then it'd be similar to having most of her body exploded, pretty easy to regenerate from.
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The things has 1000m AOE or so according to the profile so ....
On the plus side for Shinobu, this version doesn't even use it much and goes for bijudama instead.
On the plus side for Shinobu, this version doesn't even use it much and goes for bijudama instead.
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He can do whatever he wants, the only reason he used bijuudama was to counter other bijuu dama.
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So will Shinobu start with a Kokorowtari slash, or will Naruto start with his Rasenshuriken?
Shinobu is usually so above everything else in her verse she starts off by eating it which wouldn't work on someone like Naruto who could fight it off, but when Shinobu's child (9-A) form was challenging her adult (Low 6-B) form from another timeline, she started by making multiple copies of Kokorowatari.
Basically, I don't think she'd start with it, especially since she wouldn't expect to get outclassed, or for it to be useful on a human, but once Naruto demonstrates his power, she'd bring out Kokorowatari pretty quickly.
Shinobu is usually so above everything else in her verse she starts off by eating it which wouldn't work on someone like Naruto who could fight it off, but when Shinobu's child (9-A) form was challenging her adult (Low 6-B) form from another timeline, she started by making multiple copies of Kokorowatari.
Basically, I don't think she'd start with it, especially since she wouldn't expect to get outclassed, or for it to be useful on a human, but once Naruto demonstrates his power, she'd bring out Kokorowatari pretty quickly.
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Restricting Kokorowatari doesn't really do anything as one of her abilities is to create as many Kokorowataris as she likes. If she slashes him with it, hmm...
Naruto himself probably won't be affected but Kurama's getting cut in half and destroyed, even if temporarily. That'll probably deactivate his Tailed Beast Mode and drop his tier down to 7-A and he's toast.
Naruto himself probably won't be affected but Kurama's getting cut in half and destroyed, even if temporarily. That'll probably deactivate his Tailed Beast Mode and drop his tier down to 7-A and he's toast.
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No...?
Kurama is inside of Naruto at all times, so unless the blade goes into the seal, she is simply slashing at pure energy that Kurama is projecting outside of Naruto, and that shouldn't null the transformation.
Kurama is inside of Naruto at all times, so unless the blade goes into the seal, she is simply slashing at pure energy that Kurama is projecting outside of Naruto, and that shouldn't null the transformation.
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What does it mean to be "inside" Naruto? Kokorowatari barely cut the hand of someone who was possessed/fused with an aberration and the aberration died, leaving the human unharmed.
Is it specified that Kurama is just inside a seal that Naruto has?
Is it specified that Kurama is just inside a seal that Naruto has?
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I meant that she slashes at Naruto and it eliminates every supernatural phenomena associated with him.
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Yeah. He has a seal on his stomach that contains it.
I think it, like the summoning seals, is also specified to be a space,time based seal.
Regardless, it is an actual seal that holds stuff inside of it like how they have scrolls to seal weapons inside of.
I think it, like the summoning seals, is also specified to be a space,time based seal.
Regardless, it is an actual seal that holds stuff inside of it like how they have scrolls to seal weapons inside of.
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No, you meant Kurama dies, even if for a few seconds.TacticalNuke002 said:
That won't really happen.
Plus, isn't the balde useless against non-super people, In that case it fails to cut through Naruto himself and he just gets the amps back instatnly.
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Kokorowatari can easily cut through seals. And btw, is the seal still intact or Kurama voluntarily stays inside Naruto now?
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Yes.TacticalNuke002 said:
I mean that both are true, Kurama can just stay there, but there is a seal. Exept it's always open, so the seal hardly means anything.
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Kokorowatari cuts through non-supernatural things without causing damage. But if there's a supernatural thing inside the non-supernatural thing, its getting killed.
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But Kurama isn't physically inside Naruto, so that means nothing.
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I still think she can, considering that Naruto-style seals do exist in Monogatari. The seal and the link to Kurama could definnitely be destroyed tho.
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Saying it doesn't exist in her verse hardly is a reason to assume she can.TacticalNuke002 said:
Plus, the seal was made by the Death God as unbreakable, and I have no idea how strong the dude is beyond a fuckton more than tailed beast.
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I said that they exist. And they're categorised as supernatural.
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Ah, misread.
Still, I don't see why she takes precedence over the Shinigami's nlf statement.
Still, I don't see why she takes precedence over the Shinigami's nlf statement.
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We haven't seen Kokorowatari interact with seals. I guess I'd assume it doesn't work then and it's a decisive win for Naruto? Shinobu's wincon is just bloodsucking to consume Naruto or very small chip damage by virtue of Naruto's higher dura). Both of which seem less likely than Naruto getting off his kill.
Voting for Naruto.
Voting for Naruto.
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...... why does the seal matter when Kurama has a cloak around Naruto? He isn't fully in the seal in this key so he dies and the cloak goes.
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That's false.AnonymousBlank said:
He is simply sharing his energy withg Naruto, he is not outside of the seal. Even when he had no more energy to give he was not ouside of the seal.
Makes no sense that a being made out of energy can run ozut of energy like that, but who cares about that? Not the author, for sure.
