Fox Jinchuuriki vs Vampire

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

I don't see the fundamental basis on Kurama not being affected just because he's inside Naruto like he's some of barrier.

What's the difference between his case and someone possessed by an aberration, where the aberration's power is what is permeating outside and not it itself?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The fact that he isn't possesing, period.

He is simply slapping some of his energy onto Naruto, he's mind, body and soul are not even near him.


Like, by that logic, the entire army covered in his chakra in the war has him possesing them, and he'd die if Shinobou hit them. That is obviously false.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Also, can't Naruto use her won blades against her?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

So everything related to Kurama suddenly is unaffected because he's sealed inside Naruto, somehow.

He could if it actually doesn't do anything to Kurama, but he had no reason to.

 

[Agnaa]

Also, can't Naruto use her won blades against her?

Shinobu's basically immune to the death manipulation from them.

It technically "kills" her but she immediately regenerates from that induced death, doing no meaningful effect.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So everything related to Kurama suddenly is unaffected because he's sealed inside Naruto, somehow.
He could if it actually doesn't do anything to Kurama, but he had no reason to.

You saying Kurama dies because of the blade is in fact wrong, because he is in no way connected to the naruto beond pumping him with energy.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Energy that he's literally made out of, or the fact that he's obviously connected in a way which was the whole point of Naruto touching Minato, who could then Hiraishin everyone because everyone was in turn connected to Naruto and Kurama because they still had his energy.

The problem is that we end with "chakra is not supernatural because everyone has it" while the supernatural fox made of chakra is snooping around in his stomach. Even ignoring Kurama, if the power is supernatural but the user isn't somehow, where do we end?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Changes absolutely nothing here. I am made out of cells and all that, if someone took my blood and destroyed, I would not die regardless.

The Minato one is also wrong. Kurama didn't even have anything to do with that. The fact that they had Naruto's chakra, since it was needed for them to be able to use Kurama's, which allows the Hiranshin to teleport people. They were absolutely not connected to Kurama, there is nothing even implying it. I mean, you saying they are connected contradicts the fact that Kurama was not even able to tell what was happening to his other self and vice versa, which is why they had to share some stuff for the Yin fox to aknowledge Naruto.

We end at a point where the user just regains the ability after the blade passes through, because there is nothing proving Kurama is connected to the chakra that he releases. The chakra he gives others is sentient with his mind (Which is why there were two of him to begin with after the split), but it isn't connected to the rest of his chakra.

 

[Agnaa]

One confounding factor is that Monogatari doesn't (yet) have anything remotely comparable to chakra, or even psychic powers/magic. Everything is either unexplained/unquestioned (humans being 9-A, subsonic, or able to turn their emotions into supernatural creatures), teachable (making talismans/metaphysical barriers), or wholly attributed to being a supernatural being.

So there's nothing to really equalize chakra to to get an idea of if it would be considered supernatural or not (by the sword's standards), and how much.

Maybe this discussion about Naruto's lore could get to how connected Kurama is to the chakra he gives Naruto, but so far it seems like Kokorowatari wouldn't really work.