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Yeah, our FOX Fantastic Four pages are severely lacking in quality and validity. Lets fix that. Before that, I wanted to go over something.
Classifications
Since we have a Doctor Doom page for both the original FOX movies and the reboot, I noticed that the classifications that we have. They're (Fox Original) and (Fox Reboot). Personally. I don't like how this looks so here's what I would recommend, using Doom as an example:
"Doctor Doom (FOX)" instead of "Doctor Doom (Fox Original)"
"Doctor Doom (FANT4STIC)" instead of "Doctor Doom (Fox Reboot)"
This edit requires the help of mods to change the name of the pages, but its a really easy edit so it shouldn't be too tedious. Anyways, lets get to the important stuff
Abilities
Note that we don't have a page for Reed yet, but I would like to make one if these revisions are approved of. I'd rather not make a messy page for him and then wait to clean it up later. That said, we'll be covering all of his stuff here
Mister Fantastic:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Elasticity (Reed possesses the ability to stretch any part of his body to incredible lengths. Because of this, he is given an extended range that is incredibly beneficial in combat. His entire body can act as a powerful restraint on opponents as well as supports for entire structures. Can turn himself into a wheel to increase his mobility. Stretched himself into a slide right as water was sent towards him, redirecting it in his favour. Slid an entire hand under a door and unlocked it from within the room. Reed's stretching works rather quickly, easily catching up to a falling firefighter before they could fall into a river), Acrobatics, Preparation, Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective), Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Once back at full strength, Reed could restrain Doom while tanking a point-blank electrical blast)
Human Torch:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Fire Manipulation, Flight, Heat Manipulation (Johnny's body temperature passively sits at 209 degrees. Could pop popcorn just by holding it), Regeneration (Low; Healed from a broken rib in a short timeframe without any medical assistance), Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective), Resistance to Fire Manipulation (When flaming on, Johnny remains completely unaffected by flames that would leave any regular human in unspeakable agony. Shielded a little girl from the fire of exploding cars)
Unstable Molecules: All previous abilities, Power Absorption (When making contact with his fellow Fantastic Four members, Johnny would switch powers with them. In order to defeat Herald Doom, Johnny made physical contact with each of them at once, keeping his powers while gaining theirs), Elasticity, Acrobatics, Light Manipulation, Forcefield Creation, Emotional Empowerment and Rage Power, Durability Negation, Inorganic Physiology (Type 1), Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Possesses the abilities of Mister Fantastic, the Invisible Woman, and The Thing)
Invisible Woman:
Superhuman Durability, Light Manipulation (Reed stated that Sue's powers bend light, giving off the appearance of invisibility. Because of this, Sue is capable of making objects and certain areas of her body invisible), Forcefield Creation (Aside from providing her with a reliable method of defence, Sue can use her forcefields at at further ranges, even capable of within and between them), Durability Negation (Stated she was capable of forming a forcefield inside a body and expanding it until they exploded) Emotional Empowerment and Rage Power (Self-control of her emotions allows Sue to properly utilize her powers. Feelings of anger can even cause her to unleash attacks stronger than intended), Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective)
The Thing:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Inorganic Physiology (Type 1; His entire body, including his organs, are completely made of rock), Martial Arts, Vehicular Mastery, Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective), Resistance to Fire Manipulation (Was unscathed after being engulfed by the flames from exploding cars. Two direct fireballs to the head from Johnny Storm only annoyed him)
Doctor Doom:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Inorganic Physiology (Type 1; Being exposed to the cosmic storm turned his entire body, with the exception of his skin, into a metal), Electricity Manipulation, Technology Manipulation (Passively turned electronics on and off simply out of anger), Magnetism Manipulation (Can attract small metal objects), Energy Absorption (Silver Surfer's power cosmic blast healed him instead of killing him, can absorb electricity from energy sources), Explosion Manipulation with Heat Seeking Missile, Ice Manipulation with Hyper Cooling Unit (After attaching him to the unit, Doom completely froze Reed Richards body), Resistance to Matter Manipulation (Survived Surfer's blast), Fire Manipulation (Only after reaching supernova could the temperature of Johnny's flames significantly affect Doom's armor)
Silver Surfer:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight, Energy Manipulation (Can convert matter and energy), Matter Manipulation (Subatomic level. Could affect the molecules of those he touches, causing ability control loss), Intangibility, Ice Manipulation, Image Projection, Weather Manipulation (Caused snowstorms across Egypt just by briefly flying past it), Resurrection and Healing (Brought Sue Storm back to life, healing her stab wound in the process), Self-Sustenance (Type 1 and 3), Transmutation, Radiation Manipulation (Wields cosmic energy, which could shut down power in New York City as he flew through), Absorption (He could absorb missiles through his board), Resistance to Fire Manipulation and Heat Manipulation (Easily grabbed the Human Torch without being harmed, continuing to do so effortlessly even when the latter approached supernova levels of heat)
Tiering
Shoutouts to Aguywhodoesthings for coming in clutch with some calcs. I'll list the feats here that'll be important
Human Torch survives a missile explosion - Building level
Doctor Doom uses a casual building-leveling blast - support for Building level
Human Torch's supernova - Multi-Continent level
Gah Lak Tus destroys Saturn - Large Planet level
Mister Fantastic:
Attack Potency: Building level (Restrained The Thing and Doctor Doom on separate occasions)
Durability: At least Building level (Was unharmed after taking a punch from The Thing. Survived a blast from Doctor Doom while weakened and later endured a point-blank blast from the latter at full strength)
Human Torch:
Attack Potency: Building level (Comparable to his durability), Multi-Continent level Environmental Destruction with supernova (According to Reed, reaching supernova levels of heat would set fire to the Earth's atmosphere) | Large Planet level (Fought and defeated Herald Doom, with the latter somewhat fearing his power)
Durability: Building level (Survived a missile explosion) | Large Planet level (Took attacks from Herald Doom)
Key: Base | Unstable Molecules
Invisible Woman:
Attack Potency: Athlete level (Went through the same training an astronaut would require to head into space), Building level with blasts (Her forcefield attacks should be superior to her physical durability)
Durability: Building level (Survived blasts from Doctor Doom), up to Multi-Continent level with forcefields (Sue's strongest forcefields could contain the flames of Johnny's supernova)
The Thing:
Attack Potency: Building level (Traded blows with Doctor Doom. Harmed Johnny Storm, even with his punch being softened by Reed)
Durability: Building level
Doctor Doom:
Attack Potency: Building level (Traded blows with The Thing. Harmed the Human Torch. One of his more casual blasts was capable of leveling a building) | Large Planet level (Obtained the Silver Surfer's power)
Durability: Building level (Endured one of Human Torch's fireballs) | Large Planet level
Key: Base | Herald Doom
Silver Surfer:
Attack Potency: Large Planet level (Killed Gah Lak Tus, who destroyed Saturn)
Durability: Large Planet level (Survived his own attack which killed Gah Lak Tus, though it left him knocked out for some time)
Thoughts?
Classifications
Since we have a Doctor Doom page for both the original FOX movies and the reboot, I noticed that the classifications that we have. They're (Fox Original) and (Fox Reboot). Personally. I don't like how this looks so here's what I would recommend, using Doom as an example:
"Doctor Doom (FOX)" instead of "Doctor Doom (Fox Original)"
"Doctor Doom (FANT4STIC)" instead of "Doctor Doom (Fox Reboot)"
This edit requires the help of mods to change the name of the pages, but its a really easy edit so it shouldn't be too tedious. Anyways, lets get to the important stuff
Abilities
Note that we don't have a page for Reed yet, but I would like to make one if these revisions are approved of. I'd rather not make a messy page for him and then wait to clean it up later. That said, we'll be covering all of his stuff here
Mister Fantastic:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Elasticity (Reed possesses the ability to stretch any part of his body to incredible lengths. Because of this, he is given an extended range that is incredibly beneficial in combat. His entire body can act as a powerful restraint on opponents as well as supports for entire structures. Can turn himself into a wheel to increase his mobility. Stretched himself into a slide right as water was sent towards him, redirecting it in his favour. Slid an entire hand under a door and unlocked it from within the room. Reed's stretching works rather quickly, easily catching up to a falling firefighter before they could fall into a river), Acrobatics, Preparation, Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective), Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Once back at full strength, Reed could restrain Doom while tanking a point-blank electrical blast)
Human Torch:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Fire Manipulation, Flight, Heat Manipulation (Johnny's body temperature passively sits at 209 degrees. Could pop popcorn just by holding it), Regeneration (Low; Healed from a broken rib in a short timeframe without any medical assistance), Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective), Resistance to Fire Manipulation (When flaming on, Johnny remains completely unaffected by flames that would leave any regular human in unspeakable agony. Shielded a little girl from the fire of exploding cars)
Unstable Molecules: All previous abilities, Power Absorption (When making contact with his fellow Fantastic Four members, Johnny would switch powers with them. In order to defeat Herald Doom, Johnny made physical contact with each of them at once, keeping his powers while gaining theirs), Elasticity, Acrobatics, Light Manipulation, Forcefield Creation, Emotional Empowerment and Rage Power, Durability Negation, Inorganic Physiology (Type 1), Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Possesses the abilities of Mister Fantastic, the Invisible Woman, and The Thing)
Invisible Woman:
Superhuman Durability, Light Manipulation (Reed stated that Sue's powers bend light, giving off the appearance of invisibility. Because of this, Sue is capable of making objects and certain areas of her body invisible), Forcefield Creation (Aside from providing her with a reliable method of defence, Sue can use her forcefields at at further ranges, even capable of within and between them), Durability Negation (Stated she was capable of forming a forcefield inside a body and expanding it until they exploded) Emotional Empowerment and Rage Power (Self-control of her emotions allows Sue to properly utilize her powers. Feelings of anger can even cause her to unleash attacks stronger than intended), Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective)
The Thing:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Inorganic Physiology (Type 1; His entire body, including his organs, are completely made of rock), Martial Arts, Vehicular Mastery, Limited Reactive Evolution (The suits the Fantastic Four wear are designed to adapt to the individual needs of its wearer. This is what allows the suits the remain undamaged to the effects of their powers. When Reed and Johnny accidentally switched powers, their suits were still just as effective), Resistance to Fire Manipulation (Was unscathed after being engulfed by the flames from exploding cars. Two direct fireballs to the head from Johnny Storm only annoyed him)
Doctor Doom:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Inorganic Physiology (Type 1; Being exposed to the cosmic storm turned his entire body, with the exception of his skin, into a metal), Electricity Manipulation, Technology Manipulation (Passively turned electronics on and off simply out of anger), Magnetism Manipulation (Can attract small metal objects), Energy Absorption (Silver Surfer's power cosmic blast healed him instead of killing him, can absorb electricity from energy sources), Explosion Manipulation with Heat Seeking Missile, Ice Manipulation with Hyper Cooling Unit (After attaching him to the unit, Doom completely froze Reed Richards body), Resistance to Matter Manipulation (Survived Surfer's blast), Fire Manipulation (Only after reaching supernova could the temperature of Johnny's flames significantly affect Doom's armor)
Silver Surfer:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight, Energy Manipulation (Can convert matter and energy), Matter Manipulation (Subatomic level. Could affect the molecules of those he touches, causing ability control loss), Intangibility, Ice Manipulation, Image Projection, Weather Manipulation (Caused snowstorms across Egypt just by briefly flying past it), Resurrection and Healing (Brought Sue Storm back to life, healing her stab wound in the process), Self-Sustenance (Type 1 and 3), Transmutation, Radiation Manipulation (Wields cosmic energy, which could shut down power in New York City as he flew through), Absorption (He could absorb missiles through his board), Resistance to Fire Manipulation and Heat Manipulation (Easily grabbed the Human Torch without being harmed, continuing to do so effortlessly even when the latter approached supernova levels of heat)
Tiering
Shoutouts to Aguywhodoesthings for coming in clutch with some calcs. I'll list the feats here that'll be important
Human Torch survives a missile explosion - Building level
Doctor Doom uses a casual building-leveling blast - support for Building level
Human Torch's supernova - Multi-Continent level
Gah Lak Tus destroys Saturn - Large Planet level
Mister Fantastic:
Attack Potency: Building level (Restrained The Thing and Doctor Doom on separate occasions)
Durability: At least Building level (Was unharmed after taking a punch from The Thing. Survived a blast from Doctor Doom while weakened and later endured a point-blank blast from the latter at full strength)
Human Torch:
Attack Potency: Building level (Comparable to his durability), Multi-Continent level Environmental Destruction with supernova (According to Reed, reaching supernova levels of heat would set fire to the Earth's atmosphere) | Large Planet level (Fought and defeated Herald Doom, with the latter somewhat fearing his power)
Durability: Building level (Survived a missile explosion) | Large Planet level (Took attacks from Herald Doom)
Key: Base | Unstable Molecules
Invisible Woman:
Attack Potency: Athlete level (Went through the same training an astronaut would require to head into space), Building level with blasts (Her forcefield attacks should be superior to her physical durability)
Durability: Building level (Survived blasts from Doctor Doom), up to Multi-Continent level with forcefields (Sue's strongest forcefields could contain the flames of Johnny's supernova)
The Thing:
Attack Potency: Building level (Traded blows with Doctor Doom. Harmed Johnny Storm, even with his punch being softened by Reed)
Durability: Building level
Doctor Doom:
Attack Potency: Building level (Traded blows with The Thing. Harmed the Human Torch. One of his more casual blasts was capable of leveling a building) | Large Planet level (Obtained the Silver Surfer's power)
Durability: Building level (Endured one of Human Torch's fireballs) | Large Planet level
Key: Base | Herald Doom
Silver Surfer:
Attack Potency: Large Planet level (Killed Gah Lak Tus, who destroyed Saturn)
Durability: Large Planet level (Survived his own attack which killed Gah Lak Tus, though it left him knocked out for some time)
Thoughts?
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