Former Grand Master with a ton of powers vs Old Man with a single power

[DontTalkDT]

Yuuki Kagurazaka (Web Novel) vs The Old Man of Wandering Mountai


Yep, I decided to do this match.

High 3-A keys for both.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Doesn't Yuuki passively kill?

 

[DontTalkDT]

Does he have passives?

In any case Old Mans power passively attempts to prevent it.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Yes, multiple passives.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Can they go past the passive plot manip?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Likely not.

 

[Threemagi]

Incon

 

[Jaw201]

This match makes my head hurt. Incon.

 

[WHYNAUT]

What are the reasons for incon? Seems to me Yuuki has no way to counter passive plot manipulation.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

His own passives, I guess. But they equal each other.

 

[WHYNAUT]

But passive plot manipulation would protect the Old Man from Yuuki's passives because Yuuki doesn't resist plot hax. I think this is a stomp.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Guess so.

 

[DontTalkDT]

bump

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Hold on, how far does his plot hax extend to?

 

[DontTalkDT]

Infinite universe range + at least some parts of another universe.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Does that count as Low 2-C? You need Low 2-C range to get past Yuuki's barrier.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Depends: why do you need low 2-C range?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Okay so, the Yuuki he's fighting is just a projection. The real Yuuki is trapped in an imaginary space, outside of space and time.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Hard to say then. It is multiversal in a certain sense, given that it can reach other universes, but of course there isn't any mention of imaginary space in the work.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Oof. Incon then? He can't do anything due to passive plot hax, and he can't put him down.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Eh. Probably.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Incon FRA.

 

[Elizhaa]

Okay so, the Yuuki he's fighting is just a projection. The real Yuuki is trapped in an imaginary space, outside of space and time.

Yuuki have Multiple Existence which Velda demonstrated but while he should have Imaginary Space from Information King-Akashic Records, he never used in battle like Rimuru so I think he would get stomp.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I meant he has Absolute Defense.

 

[Elizhaa]

Oh, I think it was 2-C range that was needed for Imaginary Space. Absolute Defense is just a spatial barrier that is in the same universe; Hinata could even bypassed it in the WN and LN novel.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Yeah, and Absolute Defense is the same thing Chloe has, which required Space-Time Continuum attack to bypass.

 

[Elizhaa]

Yeah, and Absolute Defense is the same thing Chloe has, which required Space-Time Continuum attack to bypass.

No, I read all the intance it was mentioned in the WN. Space-Time Continuum attack was stated bypassed Multiple-Existence and Parallel Exitence. Moreover, Guy did bypassed her Absolute Defense with Calamity Claw so the Low 2-C range look false.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

No, CP stated Chloe deactivated her Absolute Defense so he wouldn't copy it. Only the poison reached her, not the actual attack.

 

[Elizhaa]

It didn't seems like it. To be fair, Guy stated that he didn't notice her using any skills though she use her Ultimate SKill to reverse her death.