GodlyCharmander
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******* physics, my guy?
It's the same reason why a character without a sword can be 9-A, but 7-A with it. It's fiction. The claws amp Freddy, and Monty, it's just that simple.
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FNAF downgrade
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It's the same reason why a character without a sword can be 9-A, but 7-A with it. It's fiction. The claws amp Freddy, and Monty, it's just that simple.
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well the wiki accepts it as 9-B which is something that he should handle with a separate crt but also I’m referring to the fire from security breach, not just the previous games
The post itself refers to it as an anti feat and as 9-B, now calm down bitch and learn how to read
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I am aware, it was just a commentary on the fact
Calm yourself feisty fellow
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The op explains why its generally not a durability feat and a heat resistance, even more so in the animatronics case so...
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i thought William in that mini-game didn't seem to have that device in hand? regardless, I wasn't expecting him to keep his strange superhuman strength for long, sad to see it go though.
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I know in fnaf 3 minigames he had it. Dont know beyond that.
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No, it is just the OP deciding not to make a crt before attempting to ignore the accepted wiki 9-B value for fire feat
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Didnt the wiki do away with heat feats long ago and start treating it as "tier" against heat? And they gave reasoning for it not applying to robots. This literally changes nothing.
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In the FNaF 3 minigames he dismantles the animatronics empty handed
it’s through unknown means but it’s safe to say that the animatronics didn’t fight back, either because he was too fast, strong, or just is a really good mechanic
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9-B but only against heat? I’ve literally never seen that on a profile and never seen this brought up in any thread
would you elaborate?
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so are the animatronics still going to scale to the skull crushing feat or are they scaling to something else?
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ew_desktop#What_to_Expect_(What_is_Agreed_on)
There was a blog due to the heat revisions yeha.
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Gewsbumpz_dude
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I might be missing something with this, but I'm mentioning it anyway.
The 9-B fire calc is going over how much durability a HUMAN character would have if they were covered in fire. Using the surface area of the human body, along with the thickness and thermal conductivity of human skin. William Afton during the time of this feat (the burning down of Fazbear Fright) was mostly a robot made of metal and whatever material an animatronic would be made of. So the calc wouldn't apply to him.
Yes, William was a human at one point, but not much of his old, rotting corpse remains. So he still wouldn't have the required surface area.
The 9-B fire calc is going over how much durability a HUMAN character would have if they were covered in fire. Using the surface area of the human body, along with the thickness and thermal conductivity of human skin. William Afton during the time of this feat (the burning down of Fazbear Fright) was mostly a robot made of metal and whatever material an animatronic would be made of. So the calc wouldn't apply to him.
Yes, William was a human at one point, but not much of his old, rotting corpse remains. So he still wouldn't have the required surface area.
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Skull crushing is 9-C, iiii dont know if they do still scale.
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Alright, thanks
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Anyways, since Monty is gonna be 9-B, I think it’s important that this also applies to his durability with the default justification
and it wouldn’t hurt if we knew what value him catching the giant bucket would have had either
and it wouldn’t hurt if we knew what value him catching the giant bucket would have had either
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Mmmm i doubt durability does. Nothing implies him or freddy to be stonewalls without those claws and the claws are treat more as a weapon. Bit like how you can use a rl hammer or bat and still not take (all of) the force of it.
Anyway the downgrades seem good to go. Anybody want to apply them?
Anyway the downgrades seem good to go. Anybody want to apply them?
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If dura didn’t scale then his arms would fall off from the force
ShockingPsychic
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I'm honestly surprised that a series with massive metal robots as the main antagonists doesn't have more 9-B feats, but this seems good. 9-C for the average animatronic, 9-B for Monty and Freddy.
William being 10-A makes sense, as Vanny (the only other human killer) is also 10-A.
A quick question, what about the VR animatronics? They're not actual robots, they're data in a video game. Dreadbear is Low 7-C via size, but then Glitchtrap is 10-C for being data, despite them both existing in the same game. Does this need reworked?
William being 10-A makes sense, as Vanny (the only other human killer) is also 10-A.
A quick question, what about the VR animatronics? They're not actual robots, they're data in a video game. Dreadbear is Low 7-C via size, but then Glitchtrap is 10-C for being data, despite them both existing in the same game. Does this need reworked?
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Well it’s not about being 6-C with claws, it’s that you can harm something 6-C with piercing damage
the problem is, piercing damage doesn’t come into play when the entire chain gets completely smashed instead of just cut
technically this is just a logical oversight from the devs, and there’s nothing suggesting that hooking up Monty claws to a robot gives it a higher striking strength or anything
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the note on dreadbear's profile addresses that
also William being 10-A is still odd, given that he literally rips animatronics apart bare handed, and does it fast enough to wear they can't fight back or run away
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(i am 9-C William Afton enthusiast.)
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For afton. He again, knows the mechanics of the robots and how to dismantle them, plus has unknown tools on him. The image you get from the scene isnt exactly saitama style one shotting them either. Maybe he could be 10-A possibly 9-C
For the claws. Theyre still treat as the only way they can break them and the claws would only be 20 times peak of normal street level. Its not much different from a human wielding a hammer to do something assuming piercing doesnt come into play
@Gewsbumpz_dude @DaReaperMan what do you guys think about the claws being the only way to destroy chains? Think they scale to dura?
For the claws. Theyre still treat as the only way they can break them and the claws would only be 20 times peak of normal street level. Its not much different from a human wielding a hammer to do something assuming piercing doesnt come into play
@Gewsbumpz_dude @DaReaperMan what do you guys think about the claws being the only way to destroy chains? Think they scale to dura?
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If Monty has an animation that has him kicking the chains to break thenm, it'd scale only to him. If it's just the claws... I don't know. What I do know however that what is put on Freddy is the outer shell part, as Monty still has hands, so it's more then likely it only scales to the claws if I remember correctly.
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You know what, I take back what I said about the outer shell of the Rockstar animatronics being cosmetic, using Monty claws as an example.
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The reasonable thing is that Monty is an obvious exception since every animatronic’s shell is what is different about them, and also they literally gave him functioning claws which isn’t something they do for all of them
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The problem is that it’s literally just the claws, which are completely non comparable to a hammer in weight or size, and piercing definitely doesn’t come into play considering the chain pretty much just explodes
It’s better to argue that it was just bad writing, since it’s fairly obvious to everybody that if you can make something blow up while wearing claws, then you can definitely do it without wearing claws. There’s no kind of rpg stat amp implied from them, maybe the reason is something dumb like maybe he didn’t want to scratch his normal hands up breaking the chains, or he just didn’t know he could do it, but you can’t just go through all the effort of applying physics calculating, but only then, when it’s CONVENIENT switch to the argument of it being fiction and you can’t say that Freddy should be 9-B without the claws logically. As I said, it’s merely PIS since obviously the main focus of the FNaF devs isn’t the power scaling or anything, and if Freddy said “I’m not fast enough to chase down that tortoise without roxy’s legs!!” or something I think we can agree that nobody would buy it at all
Also the robots were roaming free and had literally attempted to kill night guards before they met purple guy, so I doubt they just stood there and let him take out his engineering kit and unscrew them, he’s def not 10-A
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If the profiles are going to have consistency, we use “it’s fiction my guy” as a LAST resort in case there is absolutely no kind of explanation in the series for why something has to be the way it is, until then, things that blatantly don’t add up for the sake of moving the plot forward, aren’t going to be taken into consideration for a downgrade
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Basically "it's against my argument so it's wrong" is what your saying. Right.
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You made a general statement about all animatronics due to the unique shell of one
This is a clear cut logical fallacy and you should have already know that before posting it
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Monty's outer shell is precisely why can do his feat. Why should the other animatronics be any different?
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Because they are literally different shells
for example Roxy has a tail that seems to be made of different material, Freddy has a lighter in his finger, and Chica makes sounds that don’t come with the endoskeleton
every one is different externally, even if they do have the same endoskeleton. This should not have been something I needed to argue
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Oh so then they don't scale to eachother in any way? Cause that's what your arguing RN lmao
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if you’re referring to the animatronics shells then they scale to eachother by having the same endoskeleton obviously, while the shells don’t really matter. You are arguing something irrelevant as usual
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