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Fnaf at freddys discussion thread!

I came to disappear again, but while I'm here I still decided to clarify why the horrors of fazbear are in the game timeline and point out a few mistakes in this post.

Let's start with the post:
1) "For example, the trilogy of novels, which is clearly in a separate timeline, moves exactly the same way, and despite the fact that they are in the same universe, it is quite obvious that they exist in a different timeline."

but scott directly said that the trilogy is not intended to be a guide to the games and the trilogy is NOT intended to solve anything, and i.e. saying that this phrase is intended for a trilogy of novels is fundamentally wrong.

Well, I'll also quickly say why using a guidebook is a bad idea. there are a lot of mistakes in the guidebooks, and the funniest thing is that they say that Glitchtrap appeared in the story "In the Flesh" or that Eleanor didn't appear in any story except "To Be Beautiful", hell, Scott didn't even know that this book uses fan renders of animatronics, and the puppet is called a male pronoun. They take the plot of the games, add theories from matpet and sell them as answers to all questions, and you can't even check the source from which you get the information.

2) "The character of Cassidy/The One You Should Not Have Killed has been changed into Andrew. Even without using the mountain of evidence that Cassidy is TOYSNHK, Andrew differs from UCN's version of TOYSNHK, namely due to the complete absence of the Stitchwraith."

Firstly, Andrew got into Stitchwraith after he blew up Afton's body, which means that this distinction is meaningless. Secondly, Cassidy is a girl, and the vengeful spirit is addressed as a boy and looks like a boy. Thirdly, what's stopping Andrew from taking on Afton after Cassidy put him down, just like Old Man Consequences said? Afton has been in the hospital for several years according to the plot.

"Michael Afton, Springtrap, Charlie Emily, and possibly Baby are still alive in FF despite dying at the end of FNaF6. These characters are dead in the games, so their reappearance in the FF series implies a different series of events."

Firstly, what's stopping Springtrap from surviving again, just like he did in FNaF 3? Even in these same books, William completely regenerates his skeleton after Andrew blew it up. Secondly, there is no baby, only Eleanor, and Charlie could have survived too, because according to the plot, only her mask is enough to defeat Afton's amalgamation. Thirdly, the story in which Michael appears is included in a collection of cut stories, which calls into question the canonicity of the stories from this book.

"Golden Freddy's entire presence in Fazbear's Frights differs from the games."

Oh, we only had one copy of Golden Freddy, didn't we? After all, there was no yellow suit and other details for the golden animatronics in the mini-games in FNAF 4? And in the plot, in no case can a pizzeria that has an entire cartoon series and a bunch of merch based on its animatronics have several more pizzerias around the state or even the entire country?

"Scott stated that while some may be connected to the games and novel trilogy, some aren't. The books themselves note that they are from different corners of the series canon."

At least don't lie here, the picture that was posted here doesn't say anything about the trilogy of novels, only about the games, and this phrase can be interpreted as follows: some stories will directly continue the story of the games, while others will be regular fillers.
 
But yeah, We currently do not treat them as canon to the games. But can use information from it, to scale remnent and Agony and such.
Btw, on the page with an explanation of the abilities of the remnant and agony, it is written that thanks to agony you can give birth to a bio-springtrap?
 
Btw, on the page with an explanation of the abilities of the remnant and agony, it is written that thanks to agony you can give birth to a bio-springtrap?
Believe me that page need a hard rework, but what do you mean by "bio-springtrap"?
 
Believe me that page need a hard rework, but what do you mean by "bio-springtrap"?
Well, in the story “In the flesh”, Matt was very angry with the AI Springtrap because of which AI Springtrap found consciousness and made Matt pregnant with himself, after which Matt throws his belly and the biological version of the Springtrap comes out and says “Dad” to him
 
Well, in the story “In the flesh”, Matt was very angry with the AI Springtrap because of which AI Springtrap found consciousness and made Matt pregnant with himself, after which Matt throws his belly and the biological version of the Springtrap comes out and says “Dad” to him
Ohh that shit... But yeah, we need lots of reworking, there is even a current active rework atm.
 
Well, in the story “In the flesh”, Matt was very angry with the AI Springtrap because of which AI Springtrap found consciousness and made Matt pregnant with himself, after which Matt throws his belly and the biological version of the Springtrap comes out and says “Dad” to him
That... is not Afton though. That thing would have it's own profile.

For the record: I am fine with FF profiles being made, just not with them being canon.

In fact, let me ask you a question: Where is it stated Fazbear's Frights is canon? Scott's WoG does not say that it's canon but that it explains things on Remnant... AKA, why we use it for the Remnant page.
 
That... is not Afton though. That thing would have it's own profile.

For the record: I am fine with FF profiles being made, just not with them being canon.

In fact, let me ask you a question: Where is it stated Fazbear's Frights is canon? Scott's WoG does not say that it's canon but that it explains things on Remnant... AKA, why we use it for the Remnant page.
Nowhere, there are only Scott's words that some stories will be directly related to games, but some are not.
But Scott usually says if the book or game is not a canon or is AU, such as he clarified the situation with the helloween update for fnaf 4 by calling it non-canon, well, and also with a novel trilogy.
 
Nowhere, there are only Scott's words that some stories will be directly related to games, but some are not.
But Scott usually says if the book or game is not a canon or is AU, such as he clarified the situation with the helloween update for fnaf 4 by calling it non-canon, well, and also with a novel trilogy.
Mhm.

So we have ABSOLUTELY no idea which ones we can treat as canon and which ones we can't. So we throw them all out.

Side note: "I AM AGONY!" proceeds to get thrown into a dumpster by the Puppet
 
I’m pretty sure Scott’s “books are canon” is more about that you cannot completely ignore one when talking about the other, since FFs elaborates on concepts that are supposedly present in games, not about them being literally in the same universe.
 
Nowhere, there are only Scott's words that some stories will be directly related to games, but some are not.
But Scott usually says if the book or game is not a canon or is AU, such as he clarified the situation with the helloween update for fnaf 4 by calling it non-canon, well, and also with a novel trilogy.
Those where both years ago and uniformly before every bit of content we talked about now. Scott has simply changed his policy. If he hadn't he'd say there canon and be done with it but he had gone for a policy of never intervening.
 
Augh, my first crt
 
Guh Looking at the FNAF 1 Pfps I noticed Smth

Freddy Has a Possibly 9-B on his FNAF 2 Key but the other members of the Og Gang Don't, And The Other Members of the Og Gang have Possibly 9-B on their Special Delivery keys yet Freddy Doesn't

Why is that?
 
btw, why do we use the feats of characters from uсn to their normal versions? well, like it's almost the same as giving the feats of goku from dbs from xeno goku
 
btw, why do we use the feats of characters from uсn to their normal versions? well, like it's almost the same as giving the feats of goku from dbs from xeno goku
I am gonna go on a limb, and guess you are not in this fandom, nor have you ever played the games/heard of the looooooooooooooooore?
 
I am gonna go on a limb, and guess you are not in this fandom, nor have you ever played the games/heard of the looooooooooooooooore?
I played the games and read the books (because the books directly say that all the actions of the ucn take place in the brain of afton, who was taken out of the suit of scraptrap and has been in the hospital for several years. also fazbear frights canon because "Into the Pit" is in the line of interactive novels that 100% take place in the game timeline) and that's why I have questions about the characters in this wiki and their abilities
 
I played the games and read the books (because the books directly say that all the actions of the ucn take place in the brain of afton
That's a theory and not confirmed.
who was taken out of the suit of scraptrap and has been in the hospital for several years
Not true in the games.
also fazbear frights canon
Compellty false.
because "Into the Pit" is in the line of interactive novels that 100% take place in the game timeline) and that's why I have questions about the characters in this wiki and their abilities
Not confirmed by any real source, nor if it was true would actually prove anything outside the ITP game to be actually canon to the games.

Let's not even begin to talk about all the changes that were done before the "return to pit" book.
 
imma repeat this again, why is the Possibly 9-B on some of the Og Gang's key wonky

Like Why Does Freddy Have Possibly 9-B in his FNAF 2 Key while Others dont
while the others have Possibly 9-B in their Special Delivery Key but Freddy Doesn't?
 
Actually, I'm gonna say something a little controversial, but not long ago I heard that while in the ITP book there are 6 MCI kids, in the interactive novel there are 5 (like in the games), so there is a very big possibility that the interactive novel is actually canon without implementing either the game or book.
 
Actually, I'm gonna say something a little controversial, but not long ago I heard that while in the ITP book there are 6 MCI kids, in the interactive novel there are 5 (like in the games), so there is a very big possibility that the interactive novel is actually canon without implementing either the game or book.
That is just one of the many changes. So yeah. It is much more likely that into the pit (return to the pit) is canon to the games, but that is only that specific interactive novel.

But by no means does this prove Fazbear Fights is canon.
 
That is just one of the many changes. So yeah. It is much more likely that into the pit (return to the pit) is canon to the games, but that is only that specific interactive novel.

But by no means does this prove Fazbear Fights is canon.
In fact, it DISPROVES it, making one of the main stories align more with games canon, bassically pointing to all the reasons why FF CAN'T be canon
 
The question is if you know how to edit, if so, you can probably apply the fixes yourself, just link the CRT in the changes box.
ok, besides the Og 4 Who else would even Scale to Possibly 9-B?
Assuming that the OG4 withered animatronics actually do scale(don't really see the vision) then toys, Puppet, GF, Springtrap, probably Fredbear.
 
The question is if you know how to edit, if so, you can probably apply the fixes yourself, just link the CRT in the changes box.

Assuming that the OG4 withered animatronics actually do scale(don't really see the vision) then toys, Puppet, GF, Springtrap, probably Fredbear.
wait, how would the Possibly 9-B be put on William's First Key specifically the One without the Springlock Suit, cuz it seems hes possibly Street Lvl rn due to Overpowering the Og Gang, (tho I'm not sure) cuz ngl 10-A, possibly 9-C, possibly 9-B looks weird
 
wait, how would the Possibly 9-B be put on William's First Key specifically the One without the Springlock Suit, cuz it seems hes possibly Street Lvl rn due to Overpowering the Og Gang, (tho I'm not sure) cuz ngl 10-A, possibly 9-C, possibly 9-B looks weird
"Possibly 9-C or 9-B"
 
"Possibly 9-C or 9-B"
I see..
wait, since the UCN key for William scales him to his Living Counterpart, and In the Durability section, Both Living and UCN have Possibly Street lvl

that would mean William's UCN key would also be Possibly 9-C or 9-B due to Scaling to his Living Counterpart, wouldn't that also means Almost Every UCN Animatronic Scales to Possibly 9-B too?
unless William wasn't supposed to be 9-C in Durability..
 
I see..
wait, since the UCN key for William scales him to his Living Counterpart, and In the Durability section, Both Living and UCN have Possibly Street lvl

that would mean William's UCN key would also be Possibly 9-C or 9-B due to Scaling to his Living Counterpart, wouldn't that also means Almost Every UCN Animatronic Scales to Possibly 9-B too?
unless William wasn't supposed to be 9-C in Durability..
That's something for others to decide, I had no hand in Afton's human scaling.
 
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