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That's what I meant, Death coin kill(more like EE but let's talk about that later) and TOYSHK bring them back to keep the tortureWould UCN guys get Immo 8 because of TOYSHNHK
10-C lolCan we be funny and make the FNAF4 cast 11-A for being dreams
Or would that be 10-C since dreams are technically signals in the brain???
The book tells about mannequins that are made to look like monsters to the victim after they inhale the nightmare gasDidnt the last book make Fnaf 4 cast actual robots that look scary because of illusion stuff?
Actually... thanks to the book that will be launched we probable can do 2 keys, one for the "real one" from the fear gas experiments and the ones from fnaf 4 11-A... maybe... they probable would still fall on the "verse equalization" that makes halph from wreck It halph not 10-C lolCan we be funny and make the FNAF4 cast 11-A for being dreams
Or would that be 10-C since dreams are technically signals in the brain???
I would argue that dreams are 11-A sinse diferent from things like living drawing or internet beinghs they are a lower level of fiction created by the brainThe book tells about mannequins that are made to look like monsters to the victim after they inhale the nightmare gas
Of course, we don't yet know if this literal FNAF4 or just something similar
It don't matter in the end of things sinse the entire game pass from inside the dream, so they would scale as if the dream is trueIdk what dreams would be
They are indeed fictional, as in, the events happening within them are not real
However they are also vaguely physical, as they exist as signals in your brain
Can be like Madotsuki.It don't matter in the end of things sinse the entire game pass from inside the dream, so they would scale as if the dream is true
the real world would need to be depicted in the main game for that... I guess there is the minigames but I don't think It's enoughCan be like Madotsuki.
A key for real life and another for the dream world
We only do verse equalization if the series takes place in the digital/dream world, one game out of 9 isn't enoughIt don't matter in the end of things sinse the entire game pass from inside the dream, so they would scale as if the dream is true
It is for the characters inside that game.... we probable should just do a General question thread alreadWe only do verse equalization if the series takes place in the digital/dream world, one game out of 9 isn't enough
I'm pretty sure they'd be Unknown unless the dream is well-established as a separate reality. Tier 11 characters exist on lower levels of reality, and the neurons that fire in the CC's brain to create the Nightmares can't really be put in a Vs match.Idk what dreams would be
They are indeed fictional, as in, the events happening within them are not real
However they are also vaguely physical, as they exist as signals in your brain
The game entirely beigh inside the dream is enough to the reality equalization let them be usedI'm pretty sure they'd be Unknown unless the dream is well-established as a separate reality. Tier 11 characters exist on lower levels of reality, and the neurons that fire in the CC's brain to create the Nightmares can't really be put in a Vs match.
That might work, but their only real AP feat would be one-shotting a child. Hell, the Nightmares might end up being weaker than their FNAF 1 counterparts.The game entirely beigh inside the dream is enough to the reality equalization let them be used
That's a pretty good question. I mean, the Nightmares are definitely either dreams or hallucinations, but then, how would the VR company know about them? Maybe they had access to the cameras from Sister Location's security office or maybe they found the Survival Logbook, but I don't know.I was thinking, If FnaF 4 is a dream, why Nightmare Chica is in Five Nights at Freddy's VR: Help Wanted?
This only apply to things like gifanny from GF, we son't see in fnaf 4 someone seeing the gameplay as a dream, this would only scale to the animatronics of FNAF 4Nightmares would be 10-A or baseline 9-C if reality equalization was accepted
I'm unsure if RE can be used here. I've heard that the majority of a series has to take within that world in order for this to happen, and FNAF4 is just one game within the series
However, the majority of FNAF4 itself takes place within the dream, so maaaybe?
Something something they took info from a ship they found on sprigtrap body and scaned It, basically findig everything on willian personal hell and usig It for their businessI was thinking, If FnaF 4 is a dream, why Nightmare Chica is in Five Nights at Freddy's VR: Help Wanted?
Tier 11 is for lower layers of reality, like 2-D or 1-D spaces. Dreams are not lower layers of reality, they are abstract constructs from a 3-D space, thus, they'd be Tier 10 regardless.At best we should do is give 2 keys based on fnaf 4 It self alone and one for the fnaf serie as a whole, so one tier 11 key and one 10-A key
A dream is just a fiction inside someone head :3 but fair... how do You put brain signals in a child in coma to fight? I guess if the mosnter animatronics from FNAC also get this treatment they would be vble to fight... stoll think they deserve a key for inside the dream and one for outside(especially sinse the decision here will also affect the monsters from FNAC thanks to their similarities)Tier 11 is for lower layers of reality, like 2-D or 1-D spaces. Dreams are not lower layers of reality, they are abstract constructs from a 3-D space, thus, they'd be Tier 10 regardless.
We can just have the FNAF 4 Keys be 10-A and the UCN and Special Delivery Keys be scaled to the other UCN and SD characters.
I don't know. That's kind of why I'm largely neutral about the Nightmares' statuses here.A dream is just a fiction inside someone head :3 but fair... how do You put brain signals in a child in coma to fight?
When do the Nightmares exist "outside" of the dream? Because if you're talking about in UCN or Special Deliverystoll think they deserve a key for inside the dream and one for outside
i meant as "beigh neural signals on a child in coma brain"When do the Nightmares exist "outside" of the dream? Because if you're talking about in UCN or Special Deliveryor Help Wantedthen yeah, those should get different Keys.
I say we do bothDreams are in a weird place between tier 10 and tier 11. I think an Unknown tier would be better.
Although I still think they should apply for RE, meaning they should be 10-A
Hum... sinse they are nightmares that come from freadbear biting the vhild shouldn't they scale to that sinse the kid is vreating them from her fear of that incident?I think they could be "possibly/likely 9-C" because just look at them. they're 6 foot tall metal monsters with like 3 rows of teeth
I still think that the books should only support theories that are strong on their own, like Springtrap causing the Phantoms. Aside from supporting strong theories, the books should be treated as separate canons, with the game characters having separate profiles for their book counterparts.Also, the fear gas experiment will make pseudo cannonical that the animatronics where actuall robots used in the experiments
I know, It's just that the fear tests thig tie perfectly fnaf 4 togetherI still think that the books should only support theories that are strong on their own, like Springtrap causing the Phantoms. Aside from supporting strong theories, the books should be treated as separate canons, with the game characters having separate profiles for their book counterparts.
How so? The pill bottles and IV drip next to the bed heavily imply that FNAF 4 is a coma, and the animatronics are literally called "Nightmares"I know, It's just that the fear tests thig tie perfectly fnaf 4 together
As far as I know, Michael wasn't in a comaHow so? The pill bottles and IV drip next to the bed heavily imply that FNAF 4 is a coma, and the animatronics are literally called "Nightmares"
Forgot abt Mike. Is there any evidence in the games that the Nightmares were animatronics that appeared warped by fear gas?As far as I know, Michael wasn't in a coma
Forgot abt Mike. Is there any evidence in the games that the Nightmares were animatronics that appeared warped by fear gas?
@Perequeliri993 has a pointThere is also the fact that the Encyclopedia tells as that BV was the one we play as in FNAF 4, but we know Michael also knows how the nightmares looked.
I think this means that both suffered them, and that along with the fact that they are in VR and AR, means that they are more than just nightmares
There is also the line from N Fredbear:
"this time, there is more than an illusion to fear"
Illusion, not Nightmare or Dream
I guess that's fair. Unless anyone has any good arguments against the FNAF 4 cast being illusions, we could apply it to the game versions too.There is also the fact that the Encyclopedia tells as that BV was the one we play as in FNAF 4, but we know Michael also knows how the nightmares looked.
I think this means that both suffered them, and that along with the fact that they are in VR and AR, means that they are more than just nightmares
There is also the line from N Fredbear:
"this time, there is more than an illusion to fear"
Illusion, not Nightmare or Dream
The fear tests explain how michael also know the nightmares, that coma is based on the fear tests the kid went trough before the biteHow so? The pill bottles and IV drip next to the bed heavily imply that FNAF 4 is a coma, and the animatronics are literally called "Nightmares"
The fnaf 4 cast is a coma dream, just based on the dream tests, I don't think this would be even a theory anymore from how much It ties the lore togetherI guess that's fair. Unless anyone has any good arguments against the FNAF 4 cast being illusions, we could apply it to the game versions too.