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Okay. That seems far more reliable then.
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We need any such calculations placed in a blog in our wiki and then evaluated by our calc group members.
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Thank you.
@Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Therefir @DragonGamerZ913
Would any of you be willing to help out by evaluating Jasonsith's calculation blog linked above please? We would appreciate the help.
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I evaluated the blog
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What about the Soryu Tenra calc that was 579.1 teratons in the wordpress linked above?
It might be hard to find, so just do "CRTL F" and type "579.1" to find the calc.
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this feat could be interesting
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Agreed.
@Jasonsith Sorry to ask so much of you, but could you look at Souther parting the clouds?
Also, could you possibly analyze the splitting of clouds aside from the hole in both of the Raoh cloud splitting feats (both of them).
Lastly Jason, would you mind looking at that 579.1 teraton Soryu Tenra feat from here? You can ignore most of the other stuff since a lot of it is bad multipliers.
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That is too much assumptions. Even using a wrong model on "creating clouds". Rejected
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Valid. What about Souther's cloud calc?
Also, like @Twellas commented in the assorted feats page, we should probably use the KE for Kaioh's cloud feat since the manga shows the clouds distorting.
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Also, additional context of the degree to which Raoh was weakened when he performed his cloud-moving feat, he had put "all of his power, life-force mind and soul" into the last punch he threw at Ken. It's safe to say that he performed the feat with a minuscule fraction of his strength.
Also, further scaling above Kasumi
Also, further scaling above Kasumi
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Which reminds me, we never discussed Kirito352's calc for Raoh's Goten Sho, nor did we agree on which of the 2 Soryu Tenra feats to use.
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I think Kenshiro should have at least Possible FTL and Possible Muti-continent level on his profile, he also may have LS upgrade
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@Jasonsith What do you think about this Goten Sho calc, and which of the 2 Kasumi cloud feats do you think is better, 5.24 teratons or 341 gigatons?
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I've changed my mind on one of the feats thanks to some information provided to me. KE looks good for the cloud feat instead of CAPE, as the manga leans more to KE
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In my mind his FTL is not yet accepted.
But the multi continent yield should be accepted - just who scale to that.
Whether we would have a tier for Thouther and anyone who tags him for that particular tier, or another key for game Raoh or whatever... Nice to hear that but I am busy IRL (and doing rigorous calc is more demanding than shoot posting around) so throw that to calc request thread thanks.
But the multi continent yield should be accepted - just who scale to that.
Whether we would have a tier for Thouther and anyone who tags him for that particular tier, or another key for game Raoh or whatever... Nice to hear that but I am busy IRL (and doing rigorous calc is more demanding than shoot posting around) so throw that to calc request thread thanks.
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this is a good question, I think the debate should start focussing on this
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Okay. No problem.
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1. @Twellas Excellent doc, I personally agree with all of it, especially with all the big boys being "Extraordinary Geniuses". I'm surprised Kasumi Kenshiro isn't one already given his intelligence showings.
2. @Jasonsith @Antvasima Do you think the 849 petatons scales to a restrained 30% Kaioh (the one that stomped Kenshiro in their first fight) or the Full-power Kaioh?
Regardless of which one, downscaling (if there is any) will be complicated, since 30% Kaioh >>> Kenshiro at the time, so downscaling from that will be tricky.
3. Lastly, which of the 2 Soryu Tenra calcs should we accept, the 5.24 teratons or the 341 gigatons?
2. @Jasonsith @Antvasima Do you think the 849 petatons scales to a restrained 30% Kaioh (the one that stomped Kenshiro in their first fight) or the Full-power Kaioh?
Regardless of which one, downscaling (if there is any) will be complicated, since 30% Kaioh >>> Kenshiro at the time, so downscaling from that will be tricky.
3. Lastly, which of the 2 Soryu Tenra calcs should we accept, the 5.24 teratons or the 341 gigatons?
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I think it's base Kaioh, as in the scene right after Juukei's statement Kaioh's matouki tears a hole through his armor, clearly implying that the Kaioh Juukei is refering to is the same we're seeing.
I'd argue that 30% pre-seals Ken already scales to the Multi-Continental statement, as it's stated that Kaioh's matouki was being amped by his hatred of Hokuto, and Ken straight up tanked a matouki strike while at 30%, suffering relatively low damage. Let's also not forget that Ken was being havily chi-drained throughout the whole thing
I also wanted to talk about this concept of everyone related to Hokuto having Tentry Kokyu Oh, well, they shouldn't, it's expressly stated to be an Hokuto Shinken only technique and no non-Shinken Hokuto user has ever displayed it. During their second fight Kaioh is stroger simply because he gre stronger and was in a place that amped him
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Can you write a summary of the suggested changes please?
Extraordinary Genius seems fine for Kenshiro at least. I do not know about the intelligence feats for the others.
I do not know. Please explain the circumstances.
If there are two calculations for the same feat, I will need to ask a few calc group members to compare them, and decide which one that seems more reliable to use.
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That seems to make sense to me.
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I meant, what are the arguments for each option?
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Look at what @Twellas wrote above, I guess.
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I also think that someone needs to calc Kasumi's lifiting strength feat that @Twellas presented
" Kasumi casually holds up a huge ass Iron ball along with a big ass staff while being 30% and life-drained (the guys holding said weapons are ridiculously huge, here's a pannel that shows Kasumi right next to them "
" Kasumi casually holds up a huge ass Iron ball along with a big ass staff while being 30% and life-drained (the guys holding said weapons are ridiculously huge, here's a pannel that shows Kasumi right next to them "
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Would you happen to have a better picture for the second link? I'm sending this to the calc request thread and someone asked if there was a better picture for the 2nd link so that they could get a measurement of the staff.
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Where did you find those scans ?
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Italians and Japanese HNK fans are so lucky
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