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Fist of the North Star General CRT
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I already talked about the quintillion punch, it is a massive outlier, is high into MFTL+ even if his arms were a millimeter long.
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I wouldn't say one hundred quintillion punches is an hyperbole, names of techniques are always literal in HnK universe. But it is an outlier nevertheless.
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TBF, 99.9% of technique names in HnK are literal 1:1 explanations of what the attack does, to the point of almost being comical, flowery language is borderline non-existent and when it is it's very, VERY obvious, like the one that's like "attack of the universal destruction" or some shit
It's in the "Travel speed" section of the OP
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Also, I'm just gonna bring up a thing I realized, the Raoh calc, the cloud pierce one, kinda misses the fact that Raoh also caused a HUGE split (the hole is almost puny in comparison) right next to the hole, that split is not included in the calc, and I'm pretty sure it would be a massive upgrade
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Wdym?
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Oh. A typo, sorry. I must have meant it's not a hyperbole.
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The OP shows a very clear lightning feat that would scale to the whole verse and might constitute an upgrade, we need to discuss/calc it
We need to come to a conclusion regarding a feat where a certain character attacks "100 quintillion times" in 1 pannel. We have to consider if the name of the technique is a bluff (basically impossible) an hyperbole (highly unlikely) or an outlier, because this feat would almost certainly be MFTL
We need to asses a statement from a character who outright states that he can punch "at the speed of light", it means little by itself, but if we consider the previous point valid...
We need to come to a conclusion regarding a feat where a certain character attacks "100 quintillion times" in 1 pannel. We have to consider if the name of the technique is a bluff (basically impossible) an hyperbole (highly unlikely) or an outlier, because this feat would almost certainly be MFTL
We need to asses a statement from a character who outright states that he can punch "at the speed of light", it means little by itself, but if we consider the previous point valid...
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I also brought up this, which might change the tier for most characters
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100% an outlier
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As I said, there is a SOL statement already, and the lightning feat might very well be relativistic. Add to this the fact that the current speed feat was literally performed by a dying character, so if anything it's a massive low-end, even base, non-Tenryū Kokyū Hō Ken would scale MASSIVELY above it
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@Promestein @Dark_warrior_100 @RayWarrior01 @Qliphoth_Bacikal
Are you willing to help out with evaluating this please?
Are you willing to help out with evaluating this please?
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This in particular. Most of the OP has already been debunked
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I also just found a feat that might be worth looking into, Ken casually reverts the course of a huge waterfall in 1 pannel-worth of time
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Even if the characters scale masisvely above relativistic and ftl, it would still be a outlier, this is 100% MFTL+ even if we give it a ridiculous timeframe and shrink the dudes arms.
Do we have a confirmation that it is the technique's actual name and not some localization thing?
Do we have a confirmation that it is the technique's actual name and not some localization thing?
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If this is solely based on the name then I don't think it's acceptable.
Yamamoto from Bleach has a technique with a name that implies he can resurrect a trillion corpses... but we only ever see him with like a couple dozen at most. Names can be very hyperbolic.
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The technique also shows a multitude of hits coming out at the same time, more than any other ever previously shown. It's also worth mentioning that almost every single technique which mentions the number of hits is literal and very precise in HNK, for instance, Hyoh has an attack whose name implies him throwing 1109 hits at the same time and it literally consists of him hitting 1109 pressure points at the same time
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The page isn't localized at all, so no, it can't be a "localization thing"
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Is there much else to be discussed here? I said it was probably an outlier and that calc could look at the lightning feat.
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Not much, the lightning feat, and possibly the stuff I brought up previously about the Raoh cloud-piercing calc and the waterfall feat.
What about the SOL statement? Are we also gonna consider that an outlier?
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Depends on how other things end up.
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What about the Raoh feat? I brought up how the calc ignores a huge split caused by Raoh alongside the hole
Also, has anybody ever calc'd Ken casually reverting a waterfall in 1 pannel?
Also, has anybody ever calc'd Ken casually reverting a waterfall in 1 pannel?
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I don’t really have that much of an opinion from the last time I commented.
Just whatever is being discussed at this point that’s acceptable to go forth with and finish it off on.
Just whatever is being discussed at this point that’s acceptable to go forth with and finish it off on.
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Eh i can agree that it's an outlier, but I personally think the number of attacks is correct, after all, we already take "their word" for attacks such as the Senju Kai Ken and the Hyoh one, where the number stated in the technique is actually accurate, I don't see why we should not accept this one in particular, especially when we actually shown that the attacks coming out are significantly more than those from other attacks.
What about the lightning feat tho?
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Also, shouldn't the priority be 1? I'm pretty sure the Raoh one would scale to most of the cast safe, like, Jagi, as Raoh was weaker than his 30% form when he performed it, and thus pre-Musou Tensei Ken should scale to it, since he was stated by Raoh himself to already be strong enough to beat him, and he would have lost due to a technicality and skill gap
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Oh, another feat I found a while ago, Falco and Ken split a massive cloud with their fight, I've never seen this one calc'd
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Working IRL.
Will pick a time to calculate maybe some of the feats listed in my own request thread.
Nonetheless... The waterfall pushing feat seems not very impressive. That could imply lifting with telekinesis, hydrokinesis, or just holding a ki blast to push the falling water back.
Unless I have further scans showing the waterfall flowing back to where they fall from.
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