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1 Its not, and already said why.1. "Scouring Light Palm" is pretty much meaningless, and it is clearly a physical attack.
2. None of the rest is.
3. I already made my argument. I don't agree with yours.
"This is really coming down to "yes" "no" "yes" "no" "yes" "no" so I'm pretty much done here unless you have any new arguments."I don't like using untranslated material, and I don't like cherrypicking random feats out of untranslated material to use them when we don't know the context or how it will scale. There's also the matter that a quintillion attacks is a pretty huge jump from MHS, and since the characters don't really have any genuine lightspeed feats, it's a contender for an outlier. (Tento Seiin Ken again, seems to use ki anyways, sorry.)
People are free to agree or disagree with either argument.
That would be good, but i think the top tiers should have at least likely or possibly FTL in their profile.A calc member can try to interpret the lightning feat, also, and calc it if they want. If it's accepted by calc members I don't really care, and MHS+ is more sensible than FTL.
Do you are agree with the likely/possibly FTL ?Gonna have to agree with Promestein on the Light Speed arguments. The most this thread can get is a likely/possibly but even that depends if everyone else can agree on that proposition.
I'm still all in on what I said regarding the lightning speed stuff earlier above.
Makes sense, but we didn't know the exactly time frame that Van Der Kool throw the punches though , i'm pretty sure that wasn't in 1 second.Light moves at 300 million m/s
Even if the guy's arms were 1 millimeter long he'd still be punching at 100 quadrillion m/s, over 300 million x lightspeed.
Yeah, depending on the actual name of the technique, it will be a enourmous outlier, this guy's nerfed punches would cross the galaxy in 9.5 seconds
Should I ask a few calc group members to help us out here?A calc member can try to interpret the lightning feat, also, and calc it if they want. If it's accepted by calc members I don't really care, and MHS+ is more sensible than FTL.
Apparently only the FTL stuff (though a "likely" rating is not out of question), while MHS ratings will need some calcs.So, is everything debunked?
Isn't all FTL stuff debunked?Apparently only the FTL stuff (though a "likely" rating is not out of question), while MHS ratings will need some calcs.
Unless there's strong evidence for even a "possibly/likely" rating, ye.Isn't all FTL stuff debunked?
Yeah, i also think that needs to be re-evaluatedAges ago. Should be looked at again.
I think it's an outlierWhat about the lightning feat from Souten no Ken? Or the "One hundred quintillion punches" thingy?
What about the lightning feat from Souten no Ken? Or the "One hundred quintillion punches" thingy?
That is not even a lightning feat. Just someone being able to charge electric sparks at his fist.I think it's an outlier
uh? I'm talking about the Liu Zongwu oneThat is not even a lightning feat. Just someone being able to charge electric sparks at his fist.
eh, technique names in HNK are mostly literal and reliable, the "light" ones are too, it's just that they don't shoot light but kinda, cover their hands with light, so it being hyperbole or a bluff just doesn't make sense to me and neither does it being a statement, because we actually see the hands (not 100 quintillion for obvious reasons, but still). It being an outlier might be true, but let's not forget the Souten no Ken guy who states he can punch at the speed of light tho.And that "One hundred quintillion punches" is a statement at best, a hyperbole likely, a bluff at worst.