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Fire Emblem discussion thread 3 (Houses): ZA WARUDO is now a green -haired child

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We still don't know if the High 6-C calc is legit, I still need to find out how to angsize
 
@Everyone For Fun Right Now since I'm in Calc Hell

Which song do you like more

Twilight of the Gods or God Shattering Better
 
Alright so I've calced Ailell, the Mountain Cut, and the Cloud Split

Ailell Melting and the Mountain Cut are Low 7-B

And it looks like the Cloud Split will be 7-B

So this is what the verse is looking like now unless we have some better suggestions for feats
 
Disappointed with the cloud dispersion feat, but okay. However, the mountain splitting feat should scale to a lot of characters. And then we got to collect the lore stuff for the god tiers.
 
The Cloud Split is gonna get downgraded again to probably very low levels so chances are, the highest calc we have now is Low 7-B, chances are that we'll need to find some better fest for the God Tiers
 
We could scale the Sword of the Creator to be as strong as all the other Heroes Relics combined

It's stated to be far beyond all of them
 
Sothis already has the Low 2-C lore stuff. There are multiple statements that describe her as being "The Creator of everything". And she's also stated to have lived before time began and gave birth to the world form the "Chaos of Creation". Which pretty much qualifies for Low 2-C. But she has weakened herself to live among the humans, so she doesn't scale to anyone but her primal self.

The Immaculate one has a statement about destroying the world somewhere, but seems rather vague. The strongest characters besides Sothis are Byleth merged with Sothis, End game Edelgard, Dimitri, and Claude, Rhea/Seiros/Immaculate One, and Nemesis. A weakened Sothis should be around the same tier as them due to the facts that all the Relics are literally her bones. And was considered difficult to kill.

Low 7-B seems good for those comparable to Catherine and Shamir, this includes early game Byleth, and pre timeskip lords, and pretty much every other playable character.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
A weakened Sothis should be around the same tier as them due to the facts that all the Relics are literally her bones.
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That's not quite right. Only the Sword of the Creator is made of Sothis's bones. The other Hero's Relics are made from the remains of the Nabateans.
 
Low 7-B seems ggood.

Low 2-C? mmm, not so much, there are no actuaal universal feats, post-timeskip high tiers die to nukes, and Sothis's creeation of the universe stuff is never applied on the gaameplay nor plot.
 
I think we can scale the Sword of the Creator to be 2 times stronger than the other Hero's Relics, as we know, the relics are powered by one crest stone, and Byleth's Sword of the Creator matched Nemesis's who has 2 creat stones meaning that the Sword of the Creator ahoupd be just as two hero's relics, so yeah

I'm pretty sure the Sword of the Creator was the one that was stated to be able to cut mountains
 
Again, only the true original Sothis is Low 2-C, not her nerfed avatar nor the other god tiers. Also, everyone else is pretty consistent at Tier 7 regardless of Hero's Relics or not; though some stronger than others. Claude was talking about Catherine when he mentioned the mountain splitting feat done by a hero's relic midway in the conversation. And that was quite early game.

Also, everyone's Massively Hypersonic because they can dodge lightning. I also do agree that Sword of the Creator is the strongest Hero's Relic overall.
 
Here's how I believe scaling is right now

Unknow, possibly Low 2-C: Prime Sothis

At least Low 7-B, likely higher (At least 1.55 Megatons, likely higher): Immaculate One

At least Low 7-B (At least 1.3 Megatons): Post-Timeskip Byleth (Sothis Fused), Post-Timeskip Edelgard, Post-Timeskip Dimitri, Post-Timeskip Claude, Hegemon Edelgard, Nemesis, Seiros, Macuil, Indech, Thales, Death Knight, Weakened Sothis

Low 7-B (1.3 Megatons): Pre-Timeskip Byleth (Sothis Fused), Solon

High 7-C (650 Kilotons): Pre-Timeskip Byleth, Everyone who uses a Heroes Relic besides the Sword of the Creator, Demonic Beasts

At least 7-C (At least 15.6 Kilotons): Post Timeskip Students, Jeralt, Seteth, Shamir, Gilbert, Alois, Hanneman, Manuela

7-C: Pre Timeskip Students, Kronya, Miklan

This is what I think
 
1) Pre-skip Lysithea and Edelgard should be in High 7-C cuz "luldoublecrest"

2) Pre-skip Dimitri for "at least 7-C" in base because the guy has been described as having superhuman strength and we have seen him crush someone's skull with his bare hand.
 
I feel like Post-Timeskip Students should scale to those who used the Holy Relics and Demonic Beasts as they can still significantly damage them on their own. Unless we make Relic users glass cannons.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
I feel like Post-Timeskip Students should scale to those who used the Holy Relics and Demonic Beasts as they can still significantly damage them on their own. Unless we make Relic users glass cannons.
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Except Felix because his relic is a shield.
 
The Sword of the Creator's Full Power is comparable/slightly weaker than Nemesis's Dark Creator Sword

The Sword of the Creator has Sothis's Crest Stone and the Dark Creator Sword has 2 Crest Stones

This likely means that 1 Crest Stone should equal half of the Sword of the Creators Power, which means that the Heroes Relics, who have 1 Crest Stone, should scale to half the Mountain Cutting Feat, which was performed by the Sword of the Creator
 
Alright, how about this

Unknow, possibly Low 2-C: Prime Sothis

At least Low 7-B, likely higher (At least 1.55 Megatons, likely higher): Immaculate One

At least Low 7-B (At least 1.3 Megatons): Post-Timeskip Byleth (Sothis Fused. Stronger than his Pre-Timeskip key. Defeats every Final Boss with help from the Lord of the Route), Post-Timeskip Edelgard (Hurts and helps defeat the Immaculate One. Has a Heroes Relic and Double Crests), Post-Timeskip Dimitri (Hurts and helps defeat Hegemon Edelgard), Post-Timeskip Claude (Hurts and helps defeat Nemesis), Hegemon Edelgard (Stronger than normal Post-Timeskip Edegard), Nemesis (On par with Post-Timeskip Byleth), Seiros (Fought Seiros), Macuil (9 Barriers B*tch), Indech (9 Barriers B*tch), Thales (Fought Post Timeskip Byleth), Death Knight (Fought Post Timeskip Byleth), Weakened Sothis (Comparable to Post Timeskip Byleth)

Low 7-B (1.3 Megatons): Pre-Timeskip Byleth (Sothis Fused. Has full power of the Sword of the Creator, which is the relic that cuts Mountains)

High 7-C (650 Kilotons): Pre-Timeskip Byleth (Even while weakened, the Sword of the Creator is said to be comparable to the Other Relics), Pre-Timeskip Edelgard (Double Crests), Pre and Post Timeskip Lysithea (Double Crests), Post Timeskip Felix (Heroes Relic), Post Timeskip Sylvain (Heroes Relic), Post Timeskip (Heroes Relic), Post Timeskip Annette (Heroes Relic), Post Timeskip Ingrid (Heroes Relic), Post Timeskip Lorenz (Heroes Relic), Post Timeskip Marianne (Heroes Relic), Post Timeskip Hilda (Heroes Relic), Demonic Beasts (1 Crest Stone), Demonic Beast Dedue (1 Crest Stone), Solon (Should be comparable to Pre-Timeskip Byleth),

At least 7-C, likely High 7-C (At least 15.6 Kilotons, likely 650 Kilotons): Post Timeskip Students that don't have Heroes Relics (Should be comarable to Demonic Beasts), Jeralt (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Seteth (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Shamir (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Gilbert (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Alois (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Hanneman (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Manuela (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Judith (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Nader (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Rodrigue (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students), Cornelia (Should be comparable to Post Timeskip Students)

7-C: Pre Timeskip Students barring Edelgard and Lysithea (Should scale to Meteor), Kronya (Should be comparable to Pre-Timeskip Students), Miklan (Can't use the full power of a Heroes Relic)

This is what we should go with
 
The Javelins of Light feat got downgraded again, it's gonna be even lower than 7-B, the highest Javelin of Light feat is Low 7-B
 
That's pretty disappointing about the cloud feat again, but alright. And that list looks pretty good.
 
I guesd I didnt convince you about upgrading Pre-skip Dimitri?
 
Pre-Timeskip Dimitri should indeed be well above other pre-timeskip students. And same with Claude. The three lords are the three strongest students in canon. The right hand people such as Hubert, Dedue, and Hilda? are also stronger than the average student. But Lysithia is indeed the strongest non Hero's relic student besides those six.
 
Can someone tell me about the supposed world destruction statements of the Immaculate One
 
Not thaat it matters without aan actual feat, Medeus, Iduun, Ashera and many others were stated to be able to destroy the world.
 
Yeah, but I need an actual statement in the game, guides, or other official source that allows me to actually try and calc or deduce how strong that is

Can someone link me these statements if they exist
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Can someone tell me about the supposed world destruction statements of the Immaculate One
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Go to the scene where Rhea transforms.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Pre-Timeskip Dimitri should indeed be well above other pre-timeskip students. And same with Claude. The three lords are the three strongest students in canon. The right hand people such as Hubert, Dedue, and Hilda? are also stronger than the average student. But Lysithia is indeed the strongest non Hero's relic student besides those six.
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Claude aint got sidekick/servant.
 
PaChi2 said:
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Can someone tell me about the supposed world destruction statements of the Immaculate One
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Go to the scene where Rhea transforms.
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Err.....which one? lol She literally transforms every route XD
 
@PaChi2

Yeah, which Rhea Transformation, and can you give me a direct quote, that's all I need, the exact scene and a quote
 
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