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... that is literally arguing for a varies key lol
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Final Cleansing of Marvel Handbook Scaling: First Batch
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.......ok.
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.. .... ...?
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Anyway, iirc namor supported the xmen base utopia, can we use that feat for his lifting strength?
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I will edit the rest, and scale Black Bolt to Namor I guess.
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I mean isn't Max more arguing for a Modern Key?
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Modern key is iffy, we gotta define a clear margin for it if we're doing it.
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Hmm so what would constitute Modern Namor
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He's at least 4-B. He has tangled with Sentry, Hulk, Red-Hulk, Iron man and thor.
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I mean feats from what year would be modern Namor?
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I don't know.
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Yup. He pretty much solo'd the avengers, which included of Captain marvel, Iron man, she-hulk and thor.
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I could help out with making a Namor modern page, i did make the Doctor Strange (Modern) page afterall.
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We probably need a Classic Spider-Man page too.
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Classic Spider-Man is too much work tbh, we gotta split his profiles into parts alongside his rogues gallery
I guess if we wanted that, 1990 Spider-Man series is a good margin as it was a relaunch of the character as well as containing his peak feats, and proceeding that most villains became amped in some regard.
He would be like, at least 9-A.
In regards to Namor, I think post 2000s can be assumed 4-B?
Strange, Dormammu and Captain Marvel need a defined margin too
I guess if we wanted that, 1990 Spider-Man series is a good margin as it was a relaunch of the character as well as containing his peak feats, and proceeding that most villains became amped in some regard.
He would be like, at least 9-A.
In regards to Namor, I think post 2000s can be assumed 4-B?
Strange, Dormammu and Captain Marvel need a defined margin too
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Post 2000s for Namor works. I thought strange already had a defined margin?
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None of them do, if there is, it should be listed on the profiles
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Ah, ok.
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To be quite fair I think even that is unneeded, our current ratings for Namor are completely fine
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Classic Dormammu's margin is Strange Tales #126 (his first appearance) - Defenders Vol. 3 #5 (He gives up Eternity's Power and then Umar depowers him to beneath 4-B). I can add that if someone unlocks the page.Zark2099 said:
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He becomes to powerful over the years for him to just have a "possible " rating imo.Zark2099 said:
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Yes. An extra straight 4-B key for Namor is fine.
Dormammu simply suffered from the Brian Bendis snowball effect of turning once impressive villains into jokes though. There was no logical reason for him being depowered other than that the writers dislike him and likely considered him too powerful to write stories about otherwise.
Dormammu simply suffered from the Brian Bendis snowball effect of turning once impressive villains into jokes though. There was no logical reason for him being depowered other than that the writers dislike him and likely considered him too powerful to write stories about otherwise.
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That may also be true, but Umar actually depowered him.
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That's fair, I guess. The timeframe I gave for Classic Dormmamu still works though, and gives an in-continuity reason for him being so much weaker.
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Doesn't there need to be an in-continuity explanation though? That's why Odin got his modern 4-B key removed, cause there wasn't an in-continuity reason.
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To be quite fair I think Modern Dormammu is shown to be yet far superior to Modern Strange, so maybe his "Modern incarnation" is some PIS and nothing else?
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2-C Modern Strange or 4-B Modern Strange?
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Well 2-C isn't in relation to Dormammu IMO, and yes, talking in context to 4-B.
Honestly I legitimately don't believe he has a legitimate power downgrade and is just PIS'd which we're taking too seriously
Honestly I legitimately don't believe he has a legitimate power downgrade and is just PIS'd which we're taking too seriously
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Btw regarding Hulk vs Thor they held each other in a grip for over an hour, which should scale to LS.
They also wrestled multiple times in other fights.
They also wrestled multiple times in other fights.
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Whose LS? But yeah, Hulk and Thor have a very extensive history with each other.
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Thor's LS.
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Ah.
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Btw, i can create a sandbox for Namors modern profile if that's ok?
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Sure.
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Is this reasoning ok? Attack Potency: Solar System level (Strong enough to make the likes of Sentry, Thanos, and Hercules bleed)
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