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Fin Fang Foom Speed Upgrade

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Thank you very much for the help Sandman.

What do you think about the suggestions Matthew?
 
I am personally not sure about Jubilee and Magik.
 
Antvasima said:
I am personally not sure about Jubilee and Magik.
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Well, I'm not the one who made the profiles. I just made a list of those who will be affected if Daredevil gets upgraded
 
@Reppuzan

We are waiting for Matthew to examine the list and evaluate if it is acceptable.

After we are done with that, we have to figure out who should scale to sub-relativistic from Silk, and possibly sub-relativistic+ from Fin Fang Foom and Iron Man.

@Sandman

No problem. I am just saying that we may or may not have to place their statistics at unknown instead. Vampire Jubilee should scale though.
 
It would be useful if somebody could remind us of the links to the relevant speed calculations as well.
 
No problem.
 
I think most of these are fine but a lot seem uncertain. Literally making every Marvel character MHS is a very bad decision.
 
Well, MHS+ even, but you need to figure out some kind of alternative approach then. We cannot wait another 4 months.
 
Well, I think we can't just go "Should scale to X", we need at least some feats to demonstrate that. If there aren't it doesn't scale.

A lot of our Marvel profiles are awful and just say "Should scale to X".
 
Black Window has a mid end Mhs feat, Punisher has a high end Mhs to low Mhs+ feat, Falcon has a high end Mhs to low Mhs+ as well just from eyeballing all 3.
 
I think that it will be extremely hard for somebody to find scans for fights that all of the characters in question have been in, but most of the above characters really should scale to Daredevil, Punisher or Falcon.
 
Daredevil may be weak but he's very fast as far as Street Heroes go. Certainly faster than people like Shadow Cat.
 
Okay, so what feat do you suggest that we scale the characters slower than him to?
 
And which characters should scale to what?
 
Well, mostly rough estimations actually.
 
But I am open for suggestions. We need some kind of systematic plan of approach though.
 
I still think we should first upgrade the ones we are certain (the ones that actually got feats calculated instead of scaling), like Fin Fang Foom, Silk, Daredevil, blah blah blah.

Then we start discussing the scaling of the MHSs and MHS+s, lastly the sub-rel ones.
 
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...r_Marvel_speed_feat_requested_by_you-know-who

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...om_hitting_the_moon_and_travels_back_to_earth

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...level"_superheroes_Massively_Hypersonic+_feat (Only the first one, the other two are outliers or inaccurate)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Huesito88/Spiderman_saving_Norman_Osbor (You say you are uncertain)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Huesito88/Spiderman_Microseconds_agai Spider-Man Microsecond Calc 2 (You are uncertain also)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Huesito88/Silk_Dodges_a_lightning_bolt (Only scales to Silk imo)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Marvel:_Iron_Fist_reacts_at_a_microsecond

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/The_Amazing_Spider_Man:_Electro_calc

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Some_Electro_feats

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Huesito88/Daredevil_dodging_Lightning_in_a_split_second
 
I am fine with the second Microsecond Spider-man feat since he's actually moving and reacting in a stated timeframe, and not just using the word.

Okay, but thank you very much for gathering them.
 
I am not fine with the Spider-Man feat in which he simply estimates himself that he had microseconds to act, which may be hyperbole as it was not an omniscient narrator. Your other examples should probably be fine.
 
Well, this is no different from first-person narration from Space Marines using the word "Microsecond' and "Nanosecond" literally.
 
Was the required time measured in some way? If not, that also seems unreliable.
 
I don't see how, they are augmented post-human super soldiers with minds that are far faster and more potent than that of normal humans.
 
Okay, but in this case some thrown rubble travelling that fast, and Spider-Man making a likely hyperbole estimation seems unreliable.

But since it fits with the other examples, and might help with our scaling, I suppose that you can use it if you wish. I am just worried that people who check up the calculation link will consider it unreliable.
 
Spider-Man still has other MHS+ feats.

Can we start upgrading FFF, Rogue, Ghost Rider, Spidey, Silk and Daredevil? Then maybe Cap, it's pretty certain he scales to Daredevil too.
 
He also isn't overwhelmingly slower than Silk, it makes sense if Silk is baseline Sub-Relativistic and he's MHS+.
 
We need list of who should scale to what before we start randomly imposing speed upgrades.
 
I also do not mind a sub-relativistic combat speed Silk, but we need Matthew to help out with evaluating which characters that should get what speed rating.
 
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