Fate's Initiation Ceremony: Meltilith VS. Lavos

[KnightOfSunlight]

I don't think Melt can answer the Type 2 concept manip tbh.

 

[Schnee_One]

My wife is now a fodder.

BRB I'm gonna go cry in a corner.

Speaking of

Why does she only lack hit detection on her 2A key? I think her 7A form lost it as well.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Idk.

I think you could CRT it in for her 7-A form.

 

[Schnee_One]

I will, hold on.

 

[Makkurona]

I somehow can relate on how the upgrade to 2-A can be a bane than a boon for Fate charas. Well, i guess enjoy the nightmare....

 

[TriforcePower1]

Lavos's absorption shouldn't be passive. He is capable of destabilizing time passively, but his absorption isn't.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

So... what's happens against Melt then?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

I don't know, and I honestly can't say.

This whole 2-A "upgrade" has kinda demoralized me on Nasuverse matches, because they're probably just gonna be the Alien X's of the tier.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Melt's invincibility affects time. infact how she obtained it is be changing the law of time with "loss of time" also includes "Loss of hit detection"

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

I don't know, and I honestly can't say.
This whole 2-A "upgrade" has kinda demoralized me on Nasuverse matches, because they're probably just gonna be the Alien X's of the tier.

I noticed a pattern in recent 2A Nasuverse matches: They got AP stomped.

(Half the haxes they face scale to AP)

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

So we need to establish our Scaling chain ASAP!!!

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Man the 2-A scene these days seems fu

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Can we just downgrade them back to Low 2-C already? I liked that. It was nice. My wife wasn't shit-tier

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

That won't be fun. Why not wank their AP up? Wank it so hard SMT cries!

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

I gotchu fam

Root is stated to be beyond concepts and dimensions once

Outerversal root

Void Shiki stated she became the root

Outerversal Shiki

Thanks to F/GO every servant scales to Shiki

Outerversal base servants

Base Servants < Base BB <<<<<<<< Beast Kiara <<<<<<< Merged Kiara < Extra BB <<<<<<< Merged BB <<<< CCC Playables

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Huh. 2A Fate. Never thought I'd see this day and I never want this. The massacres it's about to receive... You're with the big boys and girls now Servants.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I hope you all don't mind if I throw some Fate guys at SMT

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I hope you all don't mind if I throw some Fate guys at SMT

I'm currently trying to decied if I should toss one at a PMMM character lol

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

That's how a verse is welcomed to its new Tier after all. But gee... why put them against the top dogs anyway?

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Can people here agree what their character is capable of doing or not? Is his absorption passive or not?

If it's not, there was no point in changing opponents.

 

[Schnee_One]

It's not.

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm currently trying to decied if I should toss one at a PMMM character lol

Don't, Fate gets annihilates

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@Schnee

I was thinking of putting Kama against Avatar of Calamity, but I actually encountered the opposite issue. I think Kama might stomp. Should I make the match anyway, since you seen to think AoC would stomp? Does that cancel out by PEMDOS or something?

 

[Makkurona]

Let's just try it anyway xd

 

[Schnee_One]

AoC is shit so yeah, Karna stomps

AoC is the one exception

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Man...I wish Fate was 2-A ages ago...I would've love made Gil vs Magnamon in an instant....

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Best boi Gilgamesh is in a weird situation at the moment. He stomps in verse because "lol this doesn't work on me, I am better and here's Ea to the face", but he's not really good in versus matches. Practically no offensive hax when compared to other powerful Fate characters.

 

[Schnee_One]

He also lacks range to deal with people outside of the universe, which is extremely common in 2A

Any omnipresent character can stomp

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I mean, they aren't starting outside the universe so it may not be as big an issue. Ironically Goetia reseting all possibility is probably better equiped to deal with omnipresent beings tho, you make a good point.

 

[Schnee_One]

Omnipresent beings are by default omnipresent with a universe or the multiverse, or something else.

Gil at best is planetary with Ea, he cannot kill an omnipresent

 

[Paul_Frank]

>at best planetary with Ea

Nani

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

We will have to somehow fix the range, because planetary with Ea is like Strange Fake version.

 

[Schnee_One]

Okay then what's its actual range since Nasuverse files still suck

 

[The_Causality]

Waifu Material for obvious reasons

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Oh we're doing pics now?

I thought I'd love Passionlip more than her. Who knew Quick Cards and ballerina penguin can be so great?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

I asked FateAlbane myself. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3392551

Lavos can absorb magic directed at it, but he does not passively absorb opponents.

 

[Dragopentling]

Um, Lavos beat Madoka in a redux thread (no one bothered telling me which lavos key, tho, smh)...and Madoka literally shitstomps everybody in the TypeMoon Verse. You really think a Fate character has a chance against Dream or Time Eater Lavos? Alright, then....

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

ABC logic doesn't always apply. To be honest, it rarely does.

 

[Schnee_One]

Very rarely does, ever.