Fate profiles Revamp Part 1 Subject: Miyamoto Musashi

[Fezzih_007]

So this is my first profile that I revamping for a fate character, I do the others later
Old Profile

New Profile

Changes are:

1. Added 4 new keys, with more abilities and resistances and other stats
2. Expanded on her intelligence section
3. Added some scans
4. Added new justifications to her stats

If there's some problem in this profile, I would like to be point to me.

 

[LamentSatanael]

Seems good

 

[Franstel]

Already gave my opinion on this before so I agree

 

[Hasty12345]

Some good changes here, some things I noticed:

• "nonduality" in the Zero key isn't bolded.
• information manipulation and conceptual manipulation in the alive keys are typeless, what types are they?
• the Klironomia Imbedded key says "all previous abilities", does that include the Muramasa sword?

 

[Rutæhh]

Looks good

 

[Vietthai96]

Look good, it is about damn time people start fixing profile rather than just upgrade tier

conceptual manipulation in the alive keys are typeless, what types are they?

There was a revision that Nasuverde CM fit all types so it was decided ti be typeless, well it is a relic of the past which tbh, should be handled in its own thread, right now should just focus on fixing profiles

 

[Hasty12345]

There was a revision that Nasuverde CM fit all types so it was decided ti be typeless, well it is a relic of the past which tbh, should be handled in its own thread, right now should just focus on fixing profiles

That can be put in a note at the bottom of the page.

What about information manipulation?

 

[Vietthai96]

What about information manipulation?

Both types, since informations constructed and is fundamental building block of soul. Or, soul is the construct of information and concept too. Soul also contain memories/knowledge which reading these information will grant knowledge like reading a record, book

 

[Hasty12345]

Both types, since informations constructed and is fundamental building block of soul. Or, soul is the construct of information and concept too. Soul also contain memories/knowledge which reading these information will grant knowledge like reading a record, book

So types 1 and 2 should be listed on the pages.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bump

• "nonduality" in the Zero key isn't bolded.

Fixed

• the Klironomia Imbedded key says "all previous abilities", does that include the Muramasa sword?

No.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

looks good

 

[Dragongod224]

Look fine

 

[Apeironaxim]

Attack Potency: Small Country Level+ (As able to defeat Cleopatra, could contend against three clones of Tamano Cat at the same time and beat Mysterious Heroine X, who compare Musashi to a certain kimono-clad street murder[9]. As able to defeat Rider of Kalasutra Hell[Note 1])

Should be "Was" not "As" for the start of each sentence, and also "compare" should be "compared"

Large Island Level+ (Has B-Rank strength, making her comparable to Servants like Muramasa who could kill Lancer of Purgatorio in one attack[Note 2])

I don't like that this is being used, as it implies it's something as a result of just how strong Muramasa is in base, when we literally have a Skill saying how he was able to do that:

Tameshi-Mono: B+

An exercise meant to test the sharpness and sturdiness of a sword. Senji Muramasa is able to draw out the power within a weapon he touches, and if he is willing, he can release the weapon's full strength, though this destroys it in a single swing.

Muramasa did what he did with Purgatoria via this, considering his sword shattered right after and B-Rank Servants clearly aren't blowing off the tops of comparable Servant's bodies left and right. He killed Purgatoria via an amp Tameshi-Mono can give to weapons he wields, drawing out their full power to the point it shatters.

 

[Mageman460]

Yeah, don't compare servants to Muramasa. He also gets hyped up with a statement saying he could defeat Rider of Kalasutra Hell, but would also likely die in the fight. Pick literally any other servant. Also, don't use the "Has B Rank Strength" instead do "As a servant, should be comparable." You could use her feats from LB 1 or the Las Vegas Summer event. Also, if the Shimousa manga has Musashi throw a sword to overpower and destroy Tomoe's NP, so that could be used as a justification as well.

Also, as a note, I think the Low 6-B+ on Raikou's Rider key is wrong. It should just be baseline Low 6-B.

 

[Wankbreaker]

Looks fine

 

[Mageman460]

Some other things I noticed,
Musashi did not have the nanomachines in the first Dioscuri fight, so that can be added there.
The Heat Manipulation Resistance isn't that impressive, considering servants already have better feats.
Resistance to Limited Perception Manipulation doesn't have a reason. I'm guessing it's for the Aphrodite or Beast Koyan stuff maybe?
It should also be noted, Living Human Musashi grows stronger. She goes from weaker than Living Yagyu to Servant level to Rider of Kalsutra Hell level to Zero. So she doesn't start as strong as Low 6-B, but gets there over time.
Also, the final Kilronomia key shouldn't have the Low 6-B+, just Low 6-B.
Every "Level" in AP/Striking Strength/Dura should be lowercase "level."
Musashi did not defeat her version of Kojiro until Shimousa. This is specifically stated by Kojiro in the Shimousa manga.

Also, once again, please stop referencing parameters. There are plans to remove that soon(tm).

 

[Fezzih_007]

Should be "Was" not "As" for the start of each sentence, and also "compare" should be "compared"


I don't like that this is being used, as it implies it's something as a result of just how strong Muramasa is in base, when we literally have a Skill saying how he was able to do that:

Muramasa did what he did with Purgatoria via this, considering his sword shattered right after and B-Rank Servants clearly aren't blowing off the tops of comparable Servant's bodies left and right. He killed Purgatoria via an amp Tameshi-Mono can give to weapons he wields, drawing out their full power to the point it shatters.

Musashi did not have the nanomachines in the first Dioscuri fight, so that can be added there.

Resistance to Limited Perception Manipulation doesn't have a reason. I'm guessing it's for the Aphrodite or Beast Koyan stuff maybe?

Also, the final Kilronomia key shouldn't have the Low 6-B+, just Low 6-B.
Every "Level" in AP/Striking Strength/Dura should be lowercase "level."

Alright, I fixed. I don't exaclty remember where the limited perception manipulation is coming from, so now I remove it.

It should also be noted, Living Human Musashi grows stronger. She goes from weaker than Living Yagyu to Servant level to Rider of Kalsutra Hell level to Zero. So she doesn't start as strong as Low 6-B, but gets there over time.

Right, so what you suggest?

 

[Mageman460]

I'm not really sure. Either split the Alive key into "Trial Quest" and "Shimousa" or just have like "Low 6-B via Accelerated Development". Though as a note, the Alive key should also be Low 6-B and not have the + because Raikou shouldn't either.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I'm not really sure. Either split the Alive key into "Trial Quest" and "Shimousa" or just have like "Low 6-B via Accelerated Development". Though as a note, the Alive key should also be Low 6-B and not have the + because Raikou shouldn't either.

I think "At least High 6-C, up to Low 6-B with Accelerated Development" works.
I seen some profiles that are like that.

 

[Apeironaxim]

I don't see the need to do the split tbh. It makes it kinda makes it look like it's a super quick development, especially by marking it with "Accelerated Development", which it really wasn't. She didn't jump multiple tiers after 1 fight afaik. I don't see anything wrong with having her Alive Key be at the strongest she was when she was still Alive (excluding Zero, obviously). Splitting it up just feels arbitrary and with no real reason.