Esdeath (Akame ga Kill!) vs Luffy (One Piece)

[Stefano4444]

Punk Hazard Arc Luffy, 6-C Key.

Round 1: Standard Battle

Round 2: Mahapadma Restricted

Who win?

 

[Schnee_One]

Esdeath Stomps ridiculously hard with that AP Gap

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Luffy's weak to pointy shit right?

 

[Schnee_One]

No.

He is weak to getting one shotted however.

 

[LordGinSama]

Luffy's weak to pointy shit right?

It's greatly exaggerated but yes. Aside from that this is a massive AP stomp

 

[Schnee_One]

God it sucks trying to find High 7A people this series doesn't stomp. Seriously

 

[Stefano4444]

Esdeath Stomps ridiculously hard with that AP Gap

If you're talking about the Country level feat of the Ice Storm Commander-In-Chief, remember that for using such ability to such extent she needed the power that she has accumulate for days for her Ice Cavalry.

She isn't going to be able to do the same in a random fight, or at least the Ice Storm Commander-In-Chief will not be as powerful as it was in that circumstance.

 

[Schnee_One]

No I'm taking about the fact that she stomped a High 7A+ character while Luffy is baseline.

Esdeath throws her bitchslap

 

[Stefano4444]

It's greatly exaggerated but yes. Aside from that this is a massive AP stomp

Massive AP stomp? And who exactly?

Punk Hazard Luffy is At least Large Mountain level, likely Island level.

Current Esdeath is At least Large Mountain level+, likely higher.

Seen to me they're pretty even in AP/Dura.

 

[Son_Gandhi]

Luffy takes this by stretchy limb jiu jitsu, probably rear naked choke.

 

[Schnee_One]

Emphasis on the + right there.

It's the same with Horus vs Sephiroth

 

[LordGinSama]

Luffy's Island level key isn't being used in this thread.

 

[Schnee_One]

Luffy takes this by stretchy limb jiu jitsu, probably rear naked choke.

?

 

[Stefano4444]

It's the same with Horus vs Sephiroth

This isn't the same, the difference here is not of the thousands of times like with Horus.

Shikoutazer = 1.23662e19 Joules < Evolved Incursio Armor 4 Tatsumi < Tyrant Tatsumi < Esdeath

Pica = 5.3333087e+19 Joules < Dressrosa Arc Roronoa Zoro < Punk Hazard Arc Luffy

Assuming the gap between characters is about 2 times only.

Esdeath = 1.23662e19*2*2*2 = 9.89296e19 Joules.

Luffy = 5.3333087e+19*2*2 = 2.13332348e20 Joules.

Again, where do you see the stomp here? Luffy is about 2.16 times stronger than Esdeath.

 

[LordGinSama]

The issue is Esdeath can stomp High 7-A+ characters with ease, Luffy himself is only above baseline High 7-A by a uncertain amount. Ergo she can stomp him.

 

[Andrew48]

Esdeath, one piece verse have no hax and is pure physical fighters (even fruits that in theory one-shots such as Big mom's soul fruit have clear limits.).

Plus rubber is weak to ice, it doesn't stretch well when frozen.

 

[Schnee_One]

You just stated the Scaling yourself.

Esdeath Stomps people almost twice as strong as Luffy, while weakened no less.

 

[Stefano4444]

Luffy's Island level key isn't being used in this thread.

I haven't restricted the 6-C key, is the reason why i wanted to put both of them again each other.

 

[LordGinSama]

You can't do that, Luffy is either High 7-A or 6-C pick one. The Esdeath stomps the former and gets stomped by the latter so it's a stomp either way.

 

[Stefano4444]

The issue is Esdeath can stomp High 7-A+ characters with ease, Luffy himself is only above baseline High 7-A by a uncertain amount. Ergo she can stomp him.

Current Zoro was too stomp Pica with ease, even when he was a mountain size statue.

And Punk Hazard Luffy is agreed to be stronger than Current Zoro.

 

[Stefano4444]

Very well, just for make it clear i have specify that 6-C Key is to be used in this match.

 

[LordGinSama]

Yes.... Dude I'm pretty much the second most knowledgeable One Piece fan on this wiki right after Cin himself. Luffy is stronger than Zoro who can shit stomp Pica but that doesn't put him at High 7-A +, Esdeath can stomp people who can one shot High 7-A+ characters.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

How is Punk Hazard Luffy stronger than Zoro?

 

[LordGinSama]

Simple scaling, Post Time Skip Luffy is stronger than Zoro and Sanji when in their Dressrosa keys.

 

[Stefano4444]

Luffy is stronger than Zoro who can shit stomp Pica but that doesn't put him at High 7-A+.

Expect Pica is likely 6-C, putting Luffy at likely 6-C as well.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I don't remember anything suggesting that, but okay.

 

[Son_Gandhi]

Jui jitsu

 

[LordGinSama]

Expect Pica is likely 6-C, putting Luffy at likely 6-C as well.


That isn't how it works. Yes Luffy is scaling above Pica ergo he gets a 6-C key but he also has a High 7-A key. And you can't use both within the same thread, but it seems the OP is using 6-C Luffy where he one shots Esdeath with ease. It's a stomp either way.

 

[Stefano4444]

Plus rubber is weak to ice, it doesn't stretch well when frozen.

Actually Luffy was show often be quite resistent again cold, or at least he isn't weak either.

He was able to move around the extreme environment of Drum Island for extend period of time without suffer any permanent damage, survived the freezing temperature of Level 4 of Impel Down while while nearly dead and he could survive the Mannen Yuki of Monet.

Also his Gear Second and Haki allow him the former to generate heat while the latter to generate fire.

 

[Stefano4444]

I don't remember anything suggesting that, but okay.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...One_Piece#Pica_creating_the_Flower_Hill_-_6-C

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I know about the feat. I was talking about the Punk Hazard Luffy > current Zoro thing.

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

no speed equalized? luffy has experience against fighting ice users. his conquers haki could shake off getting frozen. but ima lean towards Esdeath because of her time stop unless luffy can see that coming and use conquers to break free.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Close this. This is either a stomp in Esdeath's favor, or Luffy's

 

[Stefano4444]

That isn't how it works. Yes Luffy is scaling above Pica ergo he gets a 6-C key but he also has a High 7-A key. And you can't use both within the same thread, but it seems the OP is using 6-C Luffy where he one shots Esdeath with ease. It's a stomp either way.

Esdeath can oneshot Tatsumi Tyrant, a form much stronger than his Evolved Incursio Armor 4, a form that has allow him to surpass Shikoutazer, a High 7-A+ character.

For oneshot Luffy would need to be like 6 stronger than Esdeath, but via powerscaling Luffy only get to be a little more than 2 times stronger than Esdeath, not enough to oneshot her.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Okay, but does that factor in statistics amplification?

 

[Stefano4444]

What do you mean exactly?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I'm asking about Gear 2nd and 3rd.

 

[Stefano4444]

I'm asking about Gear 2nd and 3rd.

Then nothing chance, Luffy is 6-C at his full power and not just at his Base.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Okay.