Elsa (Frozen) VS Noelle Holiday (Deltarune) (Grace)

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

I want to know specifically it is for who's reasons above.

It’s for Originlima’s, my reasons, and everyone else who overall said that Noelle’s Snowgrave attack could one-shot Elsa and so could ice-shock. Snowgrave wouldn’t take that long to use as everyone says it does and Iceshock could take even less time. Plus she doesn’t have to build up TP since Susie could automatically use Rude-buster against the werewires in the Noelle and Susie cutscene and after the Queen’s monologue.

 

[FinePoint]

It’s for Originlima’s, my reasons, and everyone else who overall said that Noelle’s Snowgrave attack could one-shot Elsa and so could ice-shock. Snowgrave wouldn’t take that long to use as everyone says it does and Iceshock could take even less time. Plus she doesn’t have to build up TP since Susie could automatically use Rude-buster against the werewires in the Noelle and Susie cutscene and after the Queen’s monologue.

Yes, but what of the fact that she's more like to go for pacifist strategies in character?
That would give Elsa the first hit, likely.

 

[Imaginym]

It’s for Originlima’s, my reasons, and everyone else who overall said that Noelle’s Snowgrave attack could one-shot Elsa and so could ice-shock. Snowgrave wouldn’t take that long to use as everyone says it does and Iceshock could take even less time. Plus she doesn’t have to build up TP since Susie could automatically use Rude-buster against the werewires in the Noelle and Susie cutscene and after the Queen’s monologue.

Thing is, using SnowGrave the quick way like on regular ways is of questionable canonocity because it goes against the characterization of Noelle not thinking it exists, nor thinking that she can use it.
Not to mention, the game was later patched so that if you abort a SnowGrave route by SPARE-ing Berdly, Noelle ceases to know SnowGrave. However, she still knows it if you defeat him through violence.

& either way, SnowGrave is a spell/form of violence that she has to be pressured heavily into even trying to use to see if it exists wouldn't be her first choice.

IceShock early would be plausible, though she might try pacifism first, unless this is her Weird/SnowGrave Route Characterization.
(& she & Elsa are both stated as being Bloodlusted, so okay.)

Although, isn't Elsa capable of one-shotting Noelle, too? Still, I guess there might be a case for Noelle dodging better.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Yes, but what of the fact that she's more like to go for pacifist strategies in character?
That would give Elsa the first hit, likely.

They both bloodlusted.

 

[Mariogoods]

Then I want to know who's voting for Elsa or inconclusive since I'm counting votes.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Noelle can at least fly and try to dodge Elsa attack and use Snowgrave while flying

 

[FinePoint]

They both bloodlusted.

Oh, my bad. I missed that.

I'll vote Noelle FRA in that case.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

3 votes until grace

 

[Imaginym]

Noelle can at least fly and try to dodge Elsa attack and use Snowgrave while flying

She could just IceShock, though; Both are one-shots, & even ignoring characterization, SnowGrave is really taxing to use, seemingly, so if it were dodged, it might not be worth it.
Admittedly, it is possible she might guess wrong that she needs to use her most powerful spell.

Anyway, I guess if it's bloodlusted Noelle, I guess I'll vote for her.

 

[Mariogoods]

She could just IceShock, though; Both are one-shots, & even ignoring characterization, SnowGrave is really taxing to use, seemingly, so if it were dodged, it might not be worth it.
Admittedly, it is possible she might guess wrong that she needs to use her most powerful spell.

Anyway, I guess if it's bloodlusted Noelle, I guess I'll vote for her.

It is bloodlusted Noelle and I counted your vote for Noelle.

1. Both are in their strongest and bloodlusted.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

OH GOD 2 VOUCE UNTIL GRACW

 

[Sonicflare9]

noelle fra

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Noella fra

 

[Deleted member 16409]

@Mariogoods
Grace happened, Noelle wins

 

[Psychomaster35]

Noelle FRA

 

[Mariogoods]

@Mariogoods
Grace happened, Noelle wins

We should wait for 24 hours.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

We should wait for 24 hours.

Ok, but now can we count it like "Noelle wins"?

 

[Imaginym]

Ok, but now can we count it like "Noelle wins"?

The point of Grace Period is so that there's 24 hours for people to input in case they disagree with the Versus Thread or the votings' premise(s)/conclusion(s), as opposed to just 1 minimalistic arguments, 6 FRAs, & a Win slapped onto the profiles.

But yes, once the 24 Hour Grace Period concludes, the match can be added to the profiles, as far as I know.

 

[Mariogoods]

The point of Grace Period is so that there's 24 hours for people to input in case they disagree with the Versus Thread premise, as opposed to just 1 minimalistic arguments, 6 FRAs, & a Win slapped onto the profiles.

But yes, once the 24 Hour Grace Period concludes, the match can be added to the profiles, as far as I know.

I have added them. This can be closed that.