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Elden Ring General Discussion

Sir_sun_man said:
becoming the elden lord by defult grants the control/power of the elden ring thats why the gods need lords with the dragon god needing placi, micky needing radahn and marika doing a whole ass round about with her fusing with a part of her self she threw away (radagon). a god needs a lord in order to use the elden ring or its equivalance so by the tarnished becoming the elden lord he get access to a mostly repaired elden ring and all the power that comes along with it, kinda how radahn gets a massive power boost from tricky micky and at that point its a bit insane to say that tarnished wouldn't at least be on the same playing field as a fully mended elden beast.
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No. A lord is required for gods of the Elden Ring to use it, but there's no indication that Lords are on par with the gods. As a matter of fact, Marika states the opposite with regards to Radagon. Gods hold the Elden Ring within their body and maintain their laws, while the Lord is the enforcer of the order. They possess power exclusively to service their god and the Elden Ring, not to use it. They are ultimately weaker than gods anyways, since Marika was the one who had to kill the Fell God when Godfrey was sent to purge the Fire Giants.

The Tarnished gains strength from great runes, but hey do NOT gain power from having direct control of the Elden Ring. That is not their role. It's kinda similar how the Undead in Dark Souls do not scale to the First Flame, which is a similar Low 2-C power source. And even more similarly, they have one specific ending where they usurp/destroy that Low 2-C power (for the Undead it's the Lord of Hollows Ashen One consuming the First Flame, and for the Tarnished it's the Lord of Frenzied Flame and their destruction of the Elden Ring and the universe).

Best we could maybe say is that the Tarnished get's like a huge possibly on Low 2-C ED as opposed to the fully mended Elden Beast's definite Low 2-C ED
 
Chritin said:
No. A lord is required for gods of the Elden Ring to use it, but there's no indication that Lords are on par with the gods. As a matter of fact, Marika states the opposite with regards to Radagon. Gods hold the Elden Ring within their body and maintain their laws, while the Lord is the enforcer of the order. They possess power exclusively to service their god and the Elden Ring, not to use it. They are ultimately weaker than gods anyways, since Marika was the one who had to kill the Fell God when Godfrey was sent to purge the Fire Giants.
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Gods in Elden Ring have weird limitations put on them. They always require Lords to enforce their will and rarely go out and do stuff. Marika for example only fought the Fell God with Godfrey and none of his other enemies, she also never intervened with anything with Radagon.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Gods in Elden Ring have weird limitations put on them. They always require Lords to enforce their will and rarely go out and do stuff. Marika for example only fought the Fell God with Godfrey and none of his other enemies, she also never intervened with anything with Radagon.
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In all honesty, the Fell God seemed to have been a direct threat to her rule. Also, personal feeling here but the fact she didn't fight other major enemies apparently but felt the need to handle the Fell God personally, even with someone as busted as Godfrey on her side, seems to indicate the Fell God was extremely powerful even for the setting (that she might have heard of him from the Hornsent who apparently greatly feared him probably played a part to)
 
Chritin said:
Also Elden Ring Tarnished edition got delayed until 2026 lol
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Damn : (

Makes sense I guess, Fromsoft games arent exactly well optimized and the Switch 2 is pretty far behind in power for the current console generation

Wonder if the edition is gonna have anything else new besides the new starting classes and the Lucatiel armor, if its just those two things, a delay by a whole year seems fairly extreme
 
IAmNotBread said:
Damn : (

Makes sense I guess, Fromsoft games arent exactly well optimized and the Switch 2 is pretty far behind in power for the current console generation

Wonder if the edition is gonna have anything else new besides the new starting classes and the Lucatiel armor, if its just those two things, a delay by a whole year seems fairly extreme
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I'm wondering if it's something big with the software that needs to be debugged. Also holding out hope for a boss replay mode
 
Eden5Zeroo said:
as someone who knows next to nothing about elden ring ... is it like lord of the rings?
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You know this is like the first thing they asked Miyazaki when the game was announced, but no.

Without getting into the nitty gritty details, I'll just say that the titular McGuffin of each series is very different. The One Ring is a physical object which was used by Sauron to enslave the minds of the different mortal races of middle earth. The Elden Ring on the other hand is more of a metaphysical object, which is made up of various runes that make up the entire ring. Each rune defines a concept (death, causality, time, etc.), and by being in the ring they define the laws of reality.

In the Lord of Rings, the goal is to destroy the One Ring, while in Elden Ring, the ring is already broken and it's our goal to fix it.

There are many other differences, but generally speaking they aren't the same at all really.
 
Hope we get some news on the Nightreign DLC soon, we are in Q4 of this year after all, unless it’s been delayed somehow, depending on how much content is being added.

I assume it’s gonna be like 2-4 characters and 2-4 Nightlords.(and hopefully some more descriptions and feats that give more scaling opportunities, half the cast is stuck in 7-A and Low 5-B limbo going off of approved calcs)
 
IAmNotBread said:
Hope we get some news on the Nightreign DLC soon, we are in Q4 of this year after all, unless it’s been delayed somehow, depending on how much content is being added.

I assume it’s gonna be like 2-4 characters and 2-4 Nightlords.(and hopefully some more descriptions and feats that give more scaling opportunities, half the cast is stuck in 7-A and Low 5-B limbo going off of approved calcs)
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Technically, the DLC is gonna come out in the japanese fiscal Q4 at the latest, which goes until march.

It'll likely be before that though, since the ER Nightreign strategy guide was delayed till February to include DLC info.
 

Nebula in the skybox
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So excited for their to be more DS links to ER as the last bastion of multiversal scaling, rendering my life a living hell.
 
I really wonder how they'll one-up Heolstor in terms of threat with the Dreglord, if they want to make him a bigger threat than Heolstor.

Heolstor already is an absurdly huge jump in power in terms of bosses we face, pretty sure hes the first character we can actually fight who has a universe-wide effect, let alone his multiple timeline and multiple universe fuckery
 
IAmNotBread said:
I really wonder how they'll one-up Heolstor in terms of threat with the Dreglord, if they want to make him a bigger threat than Heolstor.

Heolstor already is an absurdly huge jump in power in terms of bosses we face, pretty sure hes the first character we can actually fight who has a universe-wide effect, let alone his multiple timeline and multiple universe fuckery
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well according to some old leaks,
A voice line, most likely from the scholar, says, It seems that the nightlord isn't the only threat to the world. (referring to the Dreglord) Now all that's left is the primordial nightlord. Pretty much implying that they float within the same tier, with maybe the Nightlord being a little bit stronger just from vibes imo.
 
So just came across this. Don’t know if anyone else has:



Even though the crossover is not canon, are they implying that to be his name? Cause it sounds very close to Gwyn. And we know how much he loves naming his kids after himself.
 
Ngl, the more I think about it, the more disappointed I am we aren't getting 3 new day 3 bosses and only two. I'm REALLY hoping there's enough content in what they bring, or maybe that after them we'll finally get Everdark Heolstor as a substitute for another new boss.
 
Chritin said:
Ngl, the more I think about it, the more disappointed I am we aren't getting 3 new day 3 bosses and only two. I'm REALLY hoping there's enough content in what they bring, or maybe that after them we'll finally get Everdark Heolstor as a substitute for another new boss.
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They did mention Nightreign ended up being a WAY bigger success then they original thought, so theres hope they may make more content in the future to capitlize on that. Plus fromsofts never been shy on making multiple DLCs, i mean look at the dark souls games
 
also i know they arent technically nightlords, but I do hope we get everdark versions for the new bosses

that or they could have 3 phases in their regular form
 
Out of curiosity, would all the nightreign enemies get a resistance to whatever damages the player when they are outside circle (Weather Manipulation I guess)?
 
Perfect_Human said:
Out of curiosity, would all the nightreign enemies get a resistance to whatever damages the player when they are outside circle (Weather Manipulation I guess)?
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I doubt it. The enemies outside of the rain aren't a byproduct of the Night itself, just random enemies found in the shifting landscape of Limveld, so I doubt in lore they survive much better than us out there. They only survive I believe because otherwise they'd all drop dead and keep giving the player runes.
 
Do we know how far out the Divine Beast's storms go? In game that is. Feel like that could be a interesting calc if its far out enough.
 
IAmNotBread said:
Do we know how far out the Divine Beast's storms go? In game that is. Feel like that could be a interesting calc if its far out enough.
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I tried looking it over a while ago. At best, you could say Belurat, which going off in game map size is about as good as good as a couple city blocks in size. Making a storm that big isn't really impressive, and there isn't really any way I could do a storm dispersal calc on it since we don't see how it comes in or leaves.
 
Would the tarnished when he gets to the dlc get a 'Higher in the lands of shadow' sort of tier due to the scadutree fragments? So Elden Lord Tarnished would be 'At least Low 5-B, likely 4-A, Higher in the lands of shadow'?
 
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