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Elden Ring General Discussion

Maybe someone can calc whatever made all the fog that blocks off the entire region from invaders. I remember Jojo getting a decently high calc just for fog covering a small town, much less an entire kingdom as shown in Demons' Souls.
 
Forgot to mention as well, I probably finally get the Adel calc done in the next few days (IF CHARIOT CAN ANSWER MY GODDAMN DMS)

In all seriousness though the calc is literally almost done, i just got really lazy on finishing the last bit. It should hopefully be done in the next week though. After that I think I'll finish the scaling blog, then maybe the cosmology blog, and then start working on just fixing up old profiles with new stuff.
 
Demigod Kratos, and bar the divine weapons? Maybe, I dunno Kratos’ profile makes my head hurt.

Where does Demons’ Souls scale, I see they have characters at small planet level but the link to the explanation doesn’t actually explain what they scale at.
Demon's Souls characters at Low 5-B scale to The Monumental keeping the remaining half of the Earth from collapsing in both a physical and metaphysical sense. Contrary to the previous explanation, it doesn't scale much to Old One, if at all. The Old One is nebulously and dramatically stronger than any individual Monumental, as it took dozens of them + The Maiden In Black to even subdue it, and killing it was completely beyond their ability. However, The Old One lacks any feats over a combat-applicable timeframe, and The First Demon Scourge it caused which erased half the Earth from existence was basically just non combat-applicable Environmental Destruction that occurred as a side effect of it being a Lovecraftian Hungry Hungry Hippo
 
Kinda yeah. I think the reasoning is supported by the fact that the monumentals are holding the other half of the world together by their existence, implying that they are supporting it from actually breaking down.
Even a single Monumental (as shown in-game, as there is only one still alive and active at that point and the DeS Earth hasn't completely fallen apart and vanished from existence) can maintain the feat, and it is very much a feat; their dialogue pretty firmly implies that keeping the world from falling apart is a sustained effort and not a fire-and-forget spell/ritual
 
Maybe someone can calc whatever made all the fog that blocks off the entire region from invaders. I remember Jojo getting a decently high calc just for fog covering a small town, much less an entire kingdom as shown in Demons' Souls.
The fog is more just a side-effect of reality being obfuscated and steadily broken down as sapient life and cognition is consumed, but maybe it could yield some good numbers.
 
The question is really what is the highest feat in Demon's Souls if we put aside the Low 5-B stuff

Also, are there plans for missing DS profiles like Leonard or Yuria?
 
The question is really what is the highest feat in Demon's Souls if we put aside the Low 5-B stuff

Also, are there plans for missing DS profiles like Leonard or Yuria?
its the giant archstone destruction thing from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/2017020...ls-feat-the-giants-of-the-northern-land.19648

town level stuff but if we throw it away it would probably just be dragon god being massive as shit and being able to move really quick (103 meters and being able to just slam into things really fast lends a lot of energy) or ya know the armored spider being able to vaporize bolders which is a high 8-C to 8-B level feat.

yeah demons souls is pretty sad when compared to the rest of FROMs works
 
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its the giant archstone destruction thing from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/2017020...ls-feat-the-giants-of-the-northern-land.19648

town level stuff but if we throw it away it would probably just be dragon god being massive as shit and being able to move really quick (103 meters and being able to just slam into things really fast lends a lot of energy) or ya know the armored spider being able to vaporize bolders which is a high 8-C to 8-B level feat.

yeah demons souls is pretty sad when compared to the rest of FROMs works
Some of the Demon’s in the opening cinematic are larger but I’m not exactly sure how I could measure them (the humans by their feet are too small)
 
its the giant archstone destruction thing from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/2017020...ls-feat-the-giants-of-the-northern-land.19648

town level stuff but if we throw it away it would probably just be dragon god being massive as shit and being able to move really quick (103 meters and being able to just slam into things really fast lends a lot of energy) or ya know the armored spider being able to vaporize bolders which is a high 8-C to 8-B level feat.

yeah demons souls is pretty sad when compared to the rest of FROMs works
Bruh even Sekiro looks stronger than this
 
Cause it's kinda wanked
Don't know about the wiki but the fandom has...definitely this kind of vibe

So demons 's Souls would be reduced to tier 7 or something. From from Dark Souls and ER and even Bloodborne then. Btw, are there any plans to upgrade BB? Also, DS is apparently keeping it to tier 4 but does it have potential for an upgrade compared to its current tier?
 
Don't know about the wiki but the fandom has...definitely this kind of vibe

So demons 's Souls would be reduced to tier 7 or something. From from Dark Souls and ER and even Bloodborne then. Btw, are there any plans to upgrade BB? Also, DS is apparently keeping it to tier 4 but does it have potential for an upgrade compared to its current tier?
BB is near the bottom of my to do list, even though it’s my favorite, simply cause it’s honestly in the best state.
 
Would the Night Shard and Deep of Night descriptions provide any more scaling for Heolstor? or are they too vague to really have any definitive scaling?

It does mention the Night being immeasurable, limitless, endless, infinite, all that.
 
Would the Night Shard and Deep of Night descriptions provide any more scaling for Heolstor? or are they too vague to really have any definitive scaling?

It does mention the Night being immeasurable, limitless, endless, infinite, all that.
It’s mostly support for it being at least high 3-A. The Night shard alone probably wouldn’t cut it, but the fact deep of night says the night “extends” into infinity shows that it is describing physical distance
 

Small patch.
Kinda dumb the artificial demotion is only by one rank, but whatever
 
Holy **** those guys are huge

Wonder if it'd be possible to calculate the energy needed for the Night to create that whole horde of them that marches during Day 2
Probably not. At their size, they are probably in the higher end of Low 7-B individually. If we wanted to assume that their creation is additive (creating two takes double the energy and so on), it would likely take hundreds to maybe even thousands to go past 7-A.
 
Probably not. At their size, they are probably in the higher end of Low 7-B individually. If we wanted to assume that their creation is additive (creating two takes double the energy and so on), it would likely take hundreds to maybe even thousands to go past 7-A.
I mean considering that the composition of their bodies seems to be mainly rock I'd say that just by sheer mass these things should net around mid 7-B range they are well over 3km large and made from what looks to be granite if one of those simply falls from a standing position they'd level a city pretty easily

like these giants seem to be in around the same size as the clover from Cloverfield
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dark-Carioca/Adult_Clover_GPE

and considering the composition of its body being of far heavier matter in all actuality these things should be pretty close to 7-A individually
 
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I mean considering that the composition of their bodies seems to be mainly rock I'd say that just by sheer mass these things should net around mid 7-B range they are well over 4km large and made from what looks to be granite if one of those simply falls from a standing position they'd level a city pretty easily

like these giants seem to be in around the same size as the clover from Cloverfield
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dark-Carioca/Adult_Clover_GPE

and considering the composition of its body being of far heavier matter in all actuality these things should be pretty close to 7-A individually
They aren’t made of rock at all. Based on the one we see in the final cutscene they are definitely wood. While that is still more impressive than if they were flesh, they are also fairly hollow and gaseous on the inside. They are basically wooden skeletons.

Most of my estimates on large size characters come from this blog which just focuses on the size of humanoid characters. The calc on clover which got a value that high was based on its movement speed. The giants on the other hand are extremely slow, so I doubt their KE would be much higher.
 
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Out of curiosity, seeing as the Sword of Damnation Ash of War can be used against all tarnished (exept Godfrey) should all of them get Type 2 Immortality or just the ones during and after the DLC?
 
I mean most characters in souls should have type 2 by default. I mean the moment you get 6 feet of steel right through your spine, lungs, heart valves, and kidneys and just shrug that shit off like it was a mild inconvenience kinda implies type 2 immortality, ya know?
Yeah, most obvious cases are Sekiro and Bloodborne, since characters can take one to two deathblows, or withstand getting punched through the skull a few times.
 
I mean most characters in souls should have type 2 by default. I mean the moment you get 6 feet of steel right through your spine, lungs, heart valves, and kidneys and just shrug that shit off like it was a mild inconvenience kinda implies type 2 immortality, ya know?
Lol jk except the type 2 immortality requirement is insane because it has to be confirmed or stated to be 'indefinite', shrugging off such attacks otherwise is stamina for some reason
 
Lol jk except the type 2 immortality requirement is insane because it has to be confirmed or stated to be 'indefinite', shrugging off such attacks otherwise is stamina for some reason
nah its the ability to treat any truely fatal attack like say a bullet through the brain (alex mercer as a wiki example comes to mind since he just takes a head shot gets half his brain blown out and gets up and move around prior to healing the wound) like a paper cut and just keep on trucking without a need to recuperate or heal so say if you get stabbed in the heart but keep moving and fighting for a bit before passing out or dying that is not enough for a type 2, now getting your spine severed, heart pierced and multiple internal organs shredded and just getting up as if nothing happened? thats type 2 and almost every from protag and character can just do that.
 
nah its the ability to treat any truely fatal attack like say a bullet through the brain (alex mercer as a wiki example comes to mind since he just takes a head shot gets half his brain blown out and gets up and move around prior to healing the wound) like a paper cut and just keep on trucking without a need to recuperate or heal so say if you get stabbed in the heart but keep moving and fighting for a bit before passing out or dying that is not enough for a type 2, now getting your spine severed, heart pierced and multiple internal organs shredded and just getting up as if nothing happened? thats type 2 and almost every from protag and character can just do that.
Unless it states indefinitely its not type 2 under our current standards (which I dont think it should be personally)
 
Lol jk except the type 2 immortality requirement is insane because it has to be confirmed or stated to be 'indefinite', shrugging off such attacks otherwise is stamina for some reason
You could theoretically stab one of them through the stomach, and then just not hit them ever again and they'd be fine. So yeah, I think it does apply to an extent.
 
Wouldnt that mean quite literally everyone in verse would get it? like the fodderest of fodder enemies can survive criticals. Type 2 immortality rats is pretty funny
 
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