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the speed difference doesn't matter because if saitama and garou look at itachi in the eyes they loseSpeed difference
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the speed difference doesn't matter because if saitama and garou look at itachi in the eyes they loseSpeed difference
I literally debunked why she can't use this ability, that has no meaning.
Even Boruto telling Shikamaru "you will soon forget this" proves that Omnipotence rewrites memories over and over again,so Omnipotence will frustrate Saitama's resistance every time.
Speed was equalized, and this ability is triggered by Eida's desire to be lovedHe would already be dead by the time he used his manipulation....
İtachi should activate it with his perception, and in perception speed Saitama&Garou>the speed difference doesn't matter because if saitama and garou look at itachi in the eyes they lose
Wdym?I literally debunked why she can't use this ability, that has no meaning.
Saitama's AD and he's already resistingHız eşitlendi ve bu yetenek, Eida'nın sevilme isteğiyle tetiklendi.
Read my previous repliesWdym?
AD stop ignoring what i've just said earlierSpeed was equalized, and this ability is triggered by Eida's desire to be loved
I mean, Saitama must resist Omnipotence, like Sarada. Otherwise Omnipotence will make his resistance futile.Bro, what part of Shikamaru not having the resistance listed, don't you understand? Saitama has them because the profile redirects you to the opm willpower page, it is not very difficult to understand. Aida has certain hax of which saitama has resistance listed.
BROOI mean, Saitama must resist Omnipotence, like Sarada. Otherwise Omnipotence will make his resistance futile.
Literally answered it..Firstly, if they were to come face to face, as I explained earlier, Saitama would clearly have the upper hand in terms of speed. Additionally, "omnipotence" is not something akin to Eida's initial attack; it's more like Saitama using serious sneezing when the battle begins, both of which are nonsensical. Secondly, if you had read what I said, you would understand that Saitama could deal with Eida remotely without the need for them to confront each other.
I don't see any answer about omnipotence.Read my previous replies
I repeat my previous statement that speed was equalized, Omnipotence is more related to Eida's desiresFirstly, if they were to come face to face, as I explained earlier, Saitama would clearly have the upper hand in terms of speed. Additionally, "omnipotence" is not something akin to Eida's initial attack; it's more like Saitama using serious sneezing when the battle begins, both of which are nonsensical. Secondly, if you had read what I said, you would understand that Saitama could deal with Eida remotely without the need for them to confront each other.
It's like asking for a character to have kamehameha resistance instead of calling it energy projection resistance or whatever it isYou don't have to resist "Omnipotence", but the hax that come with it. for example, limited reality warping: which creates that aura with empathic manip. (based on her profile)
In this context, that "reality warping" is not relevant since its use is to generate empathic manip, which Saitama has an innately resistance.
Alright then, tell me, why do you think Eidan would use omnipotence directly as first attack? And can you prove it? This is not in Eida's character to attack with this kind of technique instantly. That's what i am saying in the whole textI don't see any answer about omnipotence.
And i'm repeating myself that Saitama has indefinite Accelerated development which makes Saitama stronger passively..I repeat my previous statement that speed was equalized, Omnipotence is more related to Eida's desires
Passively? I can't see that in the profile,please show it in the profileAnd i'm repeating myself that Saitama has indefinite Accelerated development which makes Saitama stronger passively..
SurePassively? I can't see that in the profile,please show it in the profile
AgreeHere the point is that even if Ada's ability is passive does not matter, since Saitama's resistances are inherent to him. As seen in the Tatsumaki or Fubuki fight, Saitama practically did not understand what they were doing and they themselves were the ones who were surprised by Saitama's willpower to resist their techniques. So saitama has those resistances without having to do or activate anything, whether the ability is passive or not remains irrelevant. This also proves that willpower in opm´s context is more like a force that gives you a lot of advantages.
Alright then, tell me, why do you think Eidan would use omnipotence directly as first attack? And can you prove it? This is not in Eida's character to attack with this kind of technique instantly. That's what i am saying in the whole text
factBurada mesele şu ki Ada'nın yeteneği pasif olsa bile Saitama'nın dirençleri onun doğasında olduğundan önemli değil. Tatsumaki veya Fubuki dövüşünde görüldüğü gibi, Saitama pratikte ne yaptıklarını anlamadı ve Saitama'nın tekniklerine direnme iradesine şaşıran da kendileri oldu. Yani Saitama, yeteneğin pasif olup olmamasının hiçbir şey yapmasına veya etkinleştirmesine gerek kalmadan bu dirençlere sahiptir. Bu aynı zamanda opm bağlamında irade gücünün size birçok avantaj sağlayan bir güce benzediğini de kanıtlıyor.
Never said Saitama's first attack is sneeze what are you on? This technique that Eida uses based on Perception, and you literally accepted Saitama's passive AD. What's your point to even say that?
(both from chapter 80) Eida says that her subconscious desire to help Kawaki caused this, Omnipotence will ignore this to Eida's desire to be loved.Can you prove that Saitama's first attack was a sneeze?
Saitama can see Ada. He was able to see and aim himself back on Boros's ship and tracked Garou while bouncing around Io/when he was leap frogging across rocks on Earth.Nowhere in the series have we seen Saitama clearly see someone from miles away, and as I said, being at a superhuman level does not mean that he can see clearly from this distance. You can only see things that are big in diameter
Saitama only has a massive jump in power when he's challenged. He's not getting a instant speed amp as soon as the fight begins since he has no emotional trigger or physical challenge.Speed difference
He has no current resistance to omnipotence, but since Shikamaru can resist her passive stuff with terrible Supernatural Willpower then Saitama with a notably deeper scaling chain likely isn't going to be effected. So it mostly depends on if she pushes herself to reality warp Saitama before being one shot and while in-character Saitama is sorta inconsistent with taking down human characters quickly, like with Tornado, Blizzard or Genos which gives her time to use the power.but Omnipotence won't let him resist anyway, because Omnipotence is warping Reality.
As we can see in the profile, Saitama has 2 different ADs, one of them needs emotional trigger while other is "indefinite" and "continuously". And AD boosts every physical stat which means he could get speed amp also.Saitama only has a massive jump in power when he's challenged. He's not getting a instant speed amp as soon as the fight begins since he has no emotional trigger or physical challenge
Eida in-character doesn't uses "Omnipotence" also, she just randomly/accidently changes reality with her emotions. And in SBA rules, Saitama sees Eida as opponent which means hes gonna attack her without any hesitation.So it mostly depends on if she pushes herself to reality warp Saitama before being one shot and while in-character Saitama is sorta inconsistent with taking down human characters quickly, like with Tornado, Blizzard or Genos which gives her time to use the power.
That's not "seeing" actually, there's no context that he actually "saw" but just approximated the coordinates he kicked off from. "Tracking Garou while bouncing around io" doesn't mean he actually "saw" Garou, this can also mean that Saitama "senses" Garou rather than "seeing" him.Saitama can see Ada. He was able to see and aim himself back on Boros's ship and tracked Garou while bouncing around Io/when he was leap frogging across rocks on Earth.
The passive boost is rather terrible. It's not enough to speedblitz within the timeframe of a fight. Saitama for example didn't get any stronger against CF Garou until Garou relentlessly copied him and triggered the explosive growth.Saitama has 2 different ADs, one of them needs emotional trigger while other is "indefinite" and "continuously". And AD boosts every physical stat which means he could get speed amp also.
I know, I was just pointing out that the ability would work on Saitama, she's just unlikely to use it.Eida in-character doesn't uses "Omnipotence" also, she just randomly/accidently changes reality with her emotions
Saitama is still in-character:And in SBA rules, Saitama sees Eida as opponent which means hes gonna attack her without any hesitation.
He views her like he does the Paradisers, Sonic, Blizzard or Tornado. None of which involved him instantly moving at full speed and throwing a 4-A punch. Saitama punches down to his opponent's level quite often.State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other.
He saw it since he landed roughly where he was launched from. Saitama isn't a mathematics genius like what your comment would imply. He just jumped back to Boros' ship.That's not "seeing" actually, there's no context that he actually "saw" but just approximated the coordinates he kicked off from.
They are quite literally within standard human visual range. No amount of mental gymnastics would change that Saitama is going to see Ada. She won't effect him with her passives but it will trigger when the fight starts.Tracking Garou while bouncing around io" doesn't mean he actually "saw" Garou, this can also mean that Saitama "senses" Garou rather than "seeing" him.
Since the speed equalised, even the smallest of speed boost is enough to be speedblitz opponent, so nope.The passive boost is rather terrible. It's not enough to speedblitz within the timeframe of a fight. Saitama for example didn't get any stronger against CF Garou until Garou relentlessly copied him and triggered the explosive growth.
Oh ok.I know, I was just pointing out that the ability would work on Saitama, she's just unlikely to use it.
Still he doesn't leaves or not tries to attack. He will still attack Eida and kill emSaitama is still in-character:
In SBA rules, Saitama "should" try to win, these things happened in the universe doesn't actually matter.He views her like he does the Paradisers, Sonic, Blizzard or Tornado. None of which involved him instantly moving at full speed and throwing a 4-A punch. Saitama punches down to his opponent's level quite often.
This doesn't prove that he "saw" it, it's just a probability. We have to use arguments that are 100% true on this site, as far as I know.He saw it since he landed roughly where he was launched from. Saitama isn't a mathematics genius like what your comment would imply. He just jumped back to Boros' ship.
The term "standard human visual" that you've found on Google refers to the maximum distance that can be seen on a perfectly flat surface without any obstructions. However, in our example, it begins in New York City where there are buildings and various obstacles present. And in my opinion, there's no way Saitama could see it that far in this kind of situation.They are quite literally within standard human visual range. No amount of mental gymnastics would change that Saitama is going to see Ada. She won't effect him with her passives but it will trigger when the fight starts.
That's not how speed blitzing work. You'd have to get into the >3-5x range before it becomes entirely unrealistic for the other party to react. Plus as mentioned before Saitama's passive speed increase isn't that notable.Since the speed equalised, even the smallest of speed boost is enough to be speedblitz opponent, so nope.
In-character he didn't kill Tornado, Blizzard, Sonic or Garou. In-character he didn't even give Boros a lethal attack until after he got back to the moon and he was legitimately a monster. He's not going to run up and one shot Ada when he didn't do that with any of the other human character's he's fought that are weaker than she is.Still he doesn't leaves or not tries to attack. He will still attack Eida and kill em
It's more likely than not, especially since the only other alternatives are significantly more unrealistic and unreasonable.This doesn't prove that he "saw" it, it's just a probability.
Saitama was able to visual track down and strike Garou while leaping thousands of kilometres every second. He can see Flashy Flash running around him, track Tornado through a city and the profile itself notes his senses are enhanced. Your assumption that Saitama can't see her and will one shot at a distance is not only unrealistic but isn't even a thing he'd do in-character.However, in our example, it begins in New York City where there are buildings and various obstacles present. And in my opinion, there's no way Saitama could see it that far in this kind of situation.
Him trying to win doesn't mean he's going to explode the planet or throw a 4-A punch off the bat. What it means is that he's not going to just leave or intentionally do nothing. His In-character fight flaws are still present within this battle.In SBA rules, Saitama "should" try to win, these things happened in the universe doesn't actually matter.
No, he can't see, Saitama knew where Boros threw him from, so he jumped from the direction where he hit the moon and came back to Boros, and it is not said anywhere that Saitama saw him and left. For Lo, they were already close to each other, it is normal for Saitama to see him.Saitama can see Ada. He was able to see and aim himself back on Boros's ship and tracked Garou while bouncing around Io/when he was leap frogging across rocks on Earth.
Saitama only has a massive jump in power when he's challenged. He's not getting a instant speed amp as soon as the fight begins since he has no emotional trigger or physical challenge.
He has no current resistance to omnipotence, but since Shikamaru can resist her passive stuff with terrible Supernatural Willpower then Saitama with a notably deeper scaling chain likely isn't going to be effected. So it mostly depends on if she pushes herself to reality warp Saitama before being one shot and while in-character Saitama is sorta inconsistent with taking down human characters quickly, like with Tornado, Blizzard or Genos which gives her time to use the power.
Though in-character Saitama probably wins more often then he loses.
Wdym? I don't understand tbhThat's not how speed blitzing work. You'd have to get into the >3-5x range before it becomes entirely unrealistic for the other party to react. Plus as mentioned before Saitama's passive speed increase isn't that notable.
Yeah but in SBA, that's just not how it works. He "tries" to win no matter what and these are the rules we put before the VSTIn-character he didn't kill Tornado, Blizzard, Sonic or Garou. In-character he didn't even give Boros a lethal attack until after he got back to the moon and he was legitimately a monster. He's not going to run up and one shot Ada when he didn't do that with any of the other human character's he's fought that are weaker than she is.
Still is an probability, so pass.It's more likely than not, especially since the only other alternatives are significantly more unrealistic and unreasonable.
How could you say "visual track down", he has "Enchaned senses", he just senses it lolSaitama was able to visual track down and strike Garou while leaping thousands of kilometres every second.
Yeah, because of differences between their perception speed. And also, even you stated that his "senses" are enhanced not the visual capability tho.He can see Flashy Flash running around him, track Tornado through a city and the profile itself notes his senses are enhanced.
That's not a assumption, Saitama is too lazy to bother approaching someone he can sense from a distance, so that's a part of his character. Considering his enchaned senses and the fact that, according to SBA rules, he can discern the direction of his enemy, he would simply finish the job by flipping the ground without needing to get closer to Eida. Which makes your assumption falseYour assumption that Saitama can't see her and will one shot at a distance is not only unrealistic but isn't even a thing he'd do in-character.
Never said he's going to explode Planet or something. He could just finish it by throwing few normal punches tbh.Him trying to win doesn't mean he's going to explode the planet or throw a 4-A punch off the bat. What it means is that he's not going to just leave or intentionally do nothing. His In-character fight flaws are still present within this battle.
A 1.02x speed difference isn't enough for a blitz. A blitz is really only achieved with a 3x or greater difference, where it becomes difficult to react to successive actions. Saitama's non-boosted AD isn't going to push him into blitzing range in my view. Especially when it didn't push him in to that range against Garou.Wdym? I don't understand tbh
It is how it works. SBA keeps his personality the same, it just gets rid of him leaving the fight of his free will. It doesn't make him more lethal or smarter tactic wise.Yeah but in SBA, that's just not how it works
Enhanced Senses applies to your five sensesHow could you say "visual track down", he has "Enchaned senses", he just senses it lol
And things adjacent to those senses.Enhanced senses are when a user has physical senses such as sight, smell, hearing, and touch far above what is normal for humans. Compared to humans, many other animals such as dogs (smell), bats (hearing), and birds (sight) would have super senses.
Can you provide a example of Saitama engaging a monster at range rather than running directly at it for a fight.That's not a assumption, Saitama is too lazy to bother approaching someone he can sense from a distance, so that's a part of his character
I don't see that. Saitama would see Ada, resist her initial power, draw out the fight and probably win before Omnipotence pulls off.He could just finish it by throwing few normal punches tbh.
According to the SBA, obviously Saitama will see him as a threat and will be out to win completely. Since we are using the strongest version of the parallel timeline, Saitama's attacks are really he are inconsistent in terms of power, so it's only a matter of time before he's explode the planet because he betting on winning.Hız saldırısı bu şekilde yapılmaz. Karşı tarafın tepki vermesi tamamen gerçekçi olmayacak hale gelmeden önce >3-5x aralığına girmeniz gerekir. Ayrıca daha önce de belirttiğimiz gibi Saitama'nın pasif hız artışı o kadar da dikkate değer değil.
Karakter olarak Tornado, Blizzard, Sonic veya Garou'yu öldürmedi. Karakter olarak Boros'a aya dönene kadar ölümcül bir saldırı bile yapmamıştı ve o meşru bir canavardı. Savaştığı diğer insan karakterlerden daha zayıf olanlarla bunu yapmadığında koşarak Ada'ya tek atış yapmayacak.
Özellikle diğer alternatiflerin önemli ölçüde daha gerçekçi ve mantıksız olması nedeniyle, olmama ihtimali daha yüksektir.
Saitama, her saniye binlerce kilometre sıçrayarak Garou'yu görsel olarak takip edip ona saldırmayı başardı. Etrafında koşan Flashy Flash'ı görebiliyor, Tornado'yu bir şehirde takip edebiliyor ve profilin kendisi de duyularının geliştiğini belirtiyor. Saitama'nın onu göremediği ve uzaktan ateş edeceği yönündeki varsayımınız sadece gerçekçi olmamakla kalmıyor, aynı zamanda onun karakterine uygun olarak yapacağı bir şey bile değil.
Kazanmaya çalışması, gezegeni patlatacağı ya da 4-A'lik bir yumruk atacağı anlamına gelmiyor. Bunun anlamı, öylece ayrılmayacağı veya kasıtlı olarak hiçbir şey yapmayacağıdır. Karakter içi dövüş kusurları bu savaşta hala mevcut.
Doesn't mean like blitz but more like speed advantage.A 1.02x speed difference isn't enough for a blitz. A blitz is really only achieved with a 3x or greater difference, where it becomes difficult to react to successive actions. Saitama's non-boosted AD isn't going to push him into blitzing range in my view. Especially when it didn't push him in to that range against Garou.
Saitama still kills everyone who seems to be enemy to him. And in this situation with SBA, he is definitely attacking regardless of which situation he is in.It is how it works. SBA keeps his personality the same, it just gets rid of him leaving the fight of his free will. It doesn't make him more lethal or smarter tactic wise
This differs to context, for example Saitama just got hearing ability in his profile;Enhanced Senses applies to your five senses
I don't have to, Saitama is kinda lazy to do that. And lemme bring common sense, why you ran at someone while you can literally one tap her with moving the floor under your feets?Can you provide a example of Saitama engaging a monster at range rather than running directly at it for a fight.
AgreeI don't see that. Saitama would see Ada, resist her initial power, draw out the fight and probably win before Omnipotence pulls off.