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Soul +body EE = erase a character soul and body at that particular time,so they must obviously still exist in the past.
History EE= all future/past timelines and present of the character will be erased from existence.
that's not how it works.

history just change the memory due to a paradox.

Normally sould will still continue to exist, because it's metaphysical
 
Ok, but if said characters resists EE and soul manipulation, It doesn't mean that said character would be able to resist his/her soul being suck up from his body.

We should note that they only have resistance to Soul destruction, but not other types of Soul manipulation, if said character hasn't shown any other forms of resistance to said technique.

For example, Goku from DBS, Who was resistance to EE, wouldn't be able to resist his Soul being controled or his Soul being suck up, or his Soul sealed.
True
 
that's not how it works.

history just change the memory due to a paradox.

Normally sould will still continue to exist, because it's metaphysical
You are just explaining temporal erasure history Erasure is destruction of everything related to a character from past future and present
 
You are just explaining temporal erasure history Erasure is destruction of everything related to a character from past future and present
Yeah this, since this also ensures erasure of even your memories from others minds and , even names on documents and diaries and such. Erasure that leaves no trace whatsoever of your existance.
 
the same could be said with soul destruction, though
yet we give ppl who could resist that resistance to general soul manip
Giving the character general resistance to Soul manipulation is vague.
If we give them just resistance to Soul destruction It would be fine.
 
If you are never being born then the soul will never come into existence
Soul are supposed to exist even before the born. Soul are a plane of existence.

and this wouldn't not be type 2, because just like in an old CRT, on Low 2-Cs, destroying the base to cause a collapse will not give that level
 
1: Physical: Users can erase anything on a physical level, reducing the item or person to absolutely nothing.

2: Non-Physical: Users can not only erase anything physical but also anything incorporeal, destroying the item or person on the Spiritual and or Mental levels, leaving no traces of them behind.

3: Space-Time: Users can erase things, not only on a physical and spiritual level, but across Space and Time itself, leaving no traces of them across Time and Space, possibly changing history to suit the change.

4: Conceptual: Users can erase concepts and the fundamental aspects of one's existence, removing the very idea of their existence from reality, meaning they never did exist, never will exist and cannot exist on a conceptual level. Users can even erase one from the narrative itself, leaving nothing of them on a narrative level. It should be noted both of these are interchangeable.

It should just be like this. To qualify for space-time erasure you must also erase that being on a physical and spiritual level.

This from debates jungle btw.
 
Then we should make a distinction between temporal and history Erasure
Temporal erasure should just be a stronger version of matter erasure
And history Erasure should be given to characters who can destroy soul,body and all of the information related to a character from existence throughout space and time
 
Then we should make distinction between temporal and history Erasure
Temporal erasure should just be a stronger version of matter erasure
And history Erasure should be given to characters who can destroy soul,body and all of the information related to a character from existence throughout space and time
History should be noted that can do that, otherwise would be just type 1.
also that dosen't change, it's just a extension of type 2.

so my point still stand that we just need 3 types
1: Physical: Users can erase anything on a physical level, reducing the item or person to absolutely nothing.

2: Non-Physical: Users can not only erase anything physical but also anything incorporeal, destroying the item or person on the Spiritual and or Mental levels, leaving no traces of them behind.

3: Space-Time: Users can erase things, not only on a physical and spiritual level, but across Space and Time itself, leaving no traces of them across Time and Space, possibly changing history to suit the change.

4: Conceptual: Users can erase concepts and the fundamental aspects of one's existence, removing the very idea of their existence from reality, meaning they never did exist, never will exist and cannot exist on a conceptual level. Users can even erase one from the narrative itself, leaving nothing of them on a narrative level. It should be noted both of these are interchangeable.

It should just be like this. To qualify for space-time erasure you must also erase that being on a physical and spiritual level.

This from debates jungle btw.
no for my reason above
 
guys can we stop derailing this thread from what it is originally proposing?
Basically everyone who uses Soul & Body EE should get their EE replaced with Soul Manipulation along with Regular EE
everyone who resists said EE should Get Resistance to EE + Soul Manipulation
the same way goes for conceptual EE, that should net you EE + Conceptual Manipulation(whatever concept type they're erasing)
^^
If anyone has any issues with what is prposed above feel free to comment
and if you have anything else to talk about (the history erasure stuff) make another thread about it
 
guys can you stop derailing this thread from what it is originally proposing?

^^
If anyone has any issues with what is prposed above feel free to comment
and if you have anything else to talk about (the history erasure stuff) make another thread about it
the types are based on this

pretty much everyone agreed with resisting to Soul EE means also resist to soul destruction
 
guys can we stop derailing this thread from what it is originally proposing?

^^
If anyone has any issues with what is prposed above feel free to comment
and if you have anything else to talk about (the history erasure stuff) make another thread about it
Ok I'll stop.

No issues with it at all. I agree.
 
Type 1. Matter Erasure: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation
Sub type temporal erasure: erasure of body throughout time and space

Type 2. Body and Soul: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation and soul destruction

Type 3: History Erasure: erasure of body,soul and information throughout space and time this will also allow to deal with certain type of type 8 immortality to be more specific the ones the ones that depends on a character being remembered or feared

Type 4 and 5 will be concept and narrative Erasure
 
Type 1. Matter Erasure: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation
Sub type temporal erasure: erasure of body throughout time and space

Type 2. Body and Soul: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation and soul destruction

Type 3: History Erasure: erasure of body,soul and information throughout space and time this will also allow to deal with certain type of type 8 immortality to be more specific the ones the ones that depends on a character being remembered or feared

Type 4 and 5 will be concept and narrative Erasure
Let's make a new thread first.
 
Sure, but it makes this thread more confusing to read through not to mention it sparked the whole history erasure debate
i just think it'll be a wise idea for that to have its own thread
the types are for specify stuff.. btw ok
Type 1. Matter Erasure: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation
Sub type temporal erasure: erasure of body throughout time and space

Type 2. Body and Soul: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation and soul destruction

Type 3: History Erasure: erasure of body,soul and information throughout space and time this will also allow to deal with certain type of type 8 immortality to be more specific the ones the ones that depends on a character being remembered or feared

Type 4 and 5 will be concept and narrative Erasure
Type 3 shouldn't exist and should be context depend. even 3812 can do that but errase the concept
same thing for type 5, let's make a CRT
 
Type 1. Matter Erasure: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation
Sub type temporal erasure: erasure of body throughout time and space

Type 2. Body and Soul: possible abilities given alongside it void manipulation and soul destruction

Type 3: History Erasure: erasure of body,soul and information throughout space and time this will also allow to deal with certain type of type 8 immortality to be more specific the ones the ones that depends on a character being remembered or feared

Type 4 and 5 will be concept and narrative Erasure
So hakai is type 3?
 
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