"Again, if they both interact as if both was normal matter, it does not matter what composition the Magical thing is. If the magic in question has been shown to interact and get overwhelmed by normal physical things, then it will indeed get overwhelmed. " >So not only do you ignore the logical fallacy you comitted but repeated the same argument again? Already showing me poor argumentation.
"A Magic Wall getting hit by a nuke, in most instances, will completely shatter from said Nuke." >This is never shown in SVTFOE's instances + I require scans.
"... What? It's a physical thing, the magical thing is very physical and it is definitely able to react to kinetic energy. Jiren, who's Glare is physical and produces kinetic energy, is able to interact and possibly destroy it via being stronger than its shown limits. "
>How is it physical? It blocks attacks from other magical beings, not from physical objects. This does not suddenly change the fact that you're tryig to combine two completely different properties together.
"You on the other hand have to prove that just because it's magical means it has the durability to survive Jiren's attacks." >Where did I say the shield can survive attacks? I said Jiren's glare isn't going to null the shield because he's only shown to do this against projectiles. You're already misclaiming my points.
"And no, stop throwing around big words. It is not at all a Fallacy. If it displays a property, it can be assumed said property transfers throughout; the fact that it's physical. What's a fallacy is assuming it can survive an attack significantly higher than what it's shown to survive." >How is the fallacy of extraordinary claims
remotely big words? It is a fallacy, your denial doesn't suddenly debunk the truth. I literally never claimed it can survive any attacks higher then it, I said Jiren can't nullify the shield cause "lolglare".
"You're the one being fallacious here; just because it's magical does not make it special in any way or form. If it displays no special properties and acts just like any other physical thing, Jiren who's well above Eclipsa's league should be able to both interact and break it." >Nice "no u". It seems we need to understand what magic is
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/magic The very
concept of what magic is supposed to be would make it special. Can you show me instances where it acts like other physical things now, cause earlier you said you don't even know if this is the case now you're arguing it's outright the case. You're already showing contradicative argumentation.
"For god's sake you're idiotic. You have yet to prove that this "Magical Shield" is special in its properties and until you do, it's just a manifested glorified wall. Because that's exactly what a shield is supposed to do; block crap. And if it doesn't display the capabilities to block attacks on such a high level than what it's shown, it will break. " >Nice to know I hit a nerve. By the very idea that it uses magic it's special lol, do you not know what magic is?
"What you're trying to imply with Eclipsa's magical shield is a No Limits Fallacy. Just because it's magical does NOT mean it can suddenly block Jiren's attacks "Just because it's magic". " >That's not what a NLF is whatsoever, lots of people seem to not get that fallacy. I didn't say that because it's magical that it can block Jiren's attacks I'm saying Jiren can't glare it and thus nullify it because he's only shown to do that to projectiles.
"You have not proved this. At all. " >Why would I need to prove common sense? The burden of proof also falls on you. Good sir, you've made the claim that magical and physical properties are somehow the same thing, objectively prove it. You've just repeated your same arguments ad naeseum.
