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Probably not but I'll try
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Dragonball specific powers>hax symposium attempt 2
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Because it factually goes against what’s presented.
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YES
Because it's a shitty way of doing things. I'll make the CRT to remove it immediately.
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in other words the hax can be beaten by power, and you don’t actually need a resistance to it for it to not work
Sorry but this thread kinda debunks itself
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If you beat something with power. By definition. You're resisting it.
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Still, Gravity manip should still be listed thanks to te verse showings of characters resisting Gravity x10000 (even higher) than Earth's one.
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This Power>Hax thing got already accepted recently to be case by case, if there is explicit context or statement in which the Hax is resisted by power.
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I'm not knowledgeable on smt but the resistance page propagate what I'm saying anyways.
It's the best way of doing things, if shown.
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so smt characters are losing their resistances?
Also how do you always know when someone is talking about MT?
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Yup. We can even show the thread for it.
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Sorry to ruin it for you....BUT This Power>Hax thing got already accepted recently to be case by case, if there is explicit context or statement in which the Hax is resisted by power.
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To sum it up
At worst, your evidence saying “the attack can be beaten if the opponent is stronger than them!” Is heavily implying that anybody, regardless of their resistances, can simply overpower the hax if they have enough power
At best, it’s completely ambiguous and isn’t even enough for a “possible” resistance to be added to the profile.
At worst, your evidence saying “the attack can be beaten if the opponent is stronger than them!” Is heavily implying that anybody, regardless of their resistances, can simply overpower the hax if they have enough power
At best, it’s completely ambiguous and isn’t even enough for a “possible” resistance to be added to the profile.
If my fireball attack lights people on fire, but people with shoes on aren’t affected by it, does everybody with shoes get resistance to fire manipulation? No, it’s just a weakness of the attack. As I said, at best it’s completely ambiguous, but realistically there’s no reason this should go through
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Ok well there’s no way to counter bad wiki standards so I guess you win gg
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Their gravity stuff is just LS, not resistance, at best it is limited or just them being adept like goku's page says
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This Power>Hax thing got already accepted recently to be case by case, if there is explicit context or statement in which the Hax is resisted by power.
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Agreed, but you will also have to add on the other profiles that their hax doesn't work on characters stronger than them.
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Yeah I figured this CRT would eventually become Power > Hax Vs Weakness of the Hax.
I know it's an old argument but let's go through it thoroughly so we can get the misconceptions out the way and actually make some progress with this debate.
I know this debate is never-ending but I did say to be optimistic.
I know it's an old argument but let's go through it thoroughly so we can get the misconceptions out the way and actually make some progress with this debate.
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Just show them this:
This Power>Hax thing got already accepted recently to be case by case, if there is explicit context or statement in which the Hax is resisted by power.
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Not necessary, if the affect of their attack hits someone from another verse who lacks a resistance they would be affected.
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And it will be removed.
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The insert on the page was put there from a staff thread. So another one would need to be made to remove it. Untill then the wiki begets my symposium.
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Why are we bringing in SMT? let's focus on Dragon Ball.
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For the record, the thread is completely wrong, but I think it’s pointless for everybody to argue unless they wanna change the rules of the wiki
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We should not delete threads in a wasteful manner if they contained useful arguments to reference later.
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I just used it as an example cause they have the power>hax on their page.
All the same arguments are on this thread. But people can look at those threads if they like.
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My thoughts exactly.
It's bad enough when DB is usually the whipping boy for whataboutism on CRTs for other verses
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For once the wiki rules are on my side.
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@AKM sama @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @Theglassman12 @Crabwhale @SamanPatou @Vietthai96 @Dominodalek
What do you think about this?
What do you think about this?
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I meant arguments from others as well.
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i can see your point, but smt is p much like db when it comes to those things
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As long as it gets added to zeno I won’t complain so agree
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I meant to put "can" my bad
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There’s more than enough agrees here, right?
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That.
We have to clearly distinguish whether this is due to a hax being a limitation to the hax, or if characters in dragon ball can just overpower certain hax in general.
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Here it comes the difficult one, Staff.
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