Dragon Ball Upgrades for every Canon?

[CryoTheMayo]

Do you mean when Jiren tries to nuke them? Goku and Vegeta were both unable to move and in base form, and they are only considered Low 2-C in Blue or higher. It's extremely reasonable for 17 to tank that blast, considering Jiren wouldn't be intending on killing Goku and Vegeta.

Although, that raises the question of why 17 couldn't simply slap the attack away. I guess Jiren could have put more power into it, but that would risk killing Goku and Vegeta so...inconsistency?

 

[Mickey1940]

The only difference between "VS Anilaza" Goku and "VS Jiren alongside Vegeta" Goku was that Goku was using Kaioken
SSGSS Goku was visibly struggling alongside the rest of his team, and he didn't get any significant boosts or Zenkais between the 2 fights (other than Kaioken)

so unless you want to say that Kaioken can make a 3A character go Low 2C, SSGSS Goku should still be Low 2C, and Anilaza, as well as the other U7 fighters, should be Low 2C as well

 

[AKM sama]

I think the changes were already made, in which case I can close this thread.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

How would Low 2-C make the other fighters low 2-C if he stomped them?

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

My only main question is--should we not at least give 17 a slightly higher rating for his Barrier, even if it's just "possibly higher"? Otherwise there's not much point in using a barrier to protect yourself or to empower your strike attacks if it's not any more durable than your own body is...

 

[AKM sama]

Undoubtedly, his barrier gives him higher protection.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Was there anything else that needed to be done that hasn't been down already?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Anilaza's profile still seems to imply that he fought a limit broken Low 2-C Super Saiyan Blue Goku.

I think it should be clarified in either Anilaza or Goku's profile that Goku only became Low 2-C after his fight with Anilaza.

 

[Antvasima]

@SSGJ

Are you willing to handle that if I unlock the page(s)?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Yes. I would appreciate if you could unlock those pages momentarily.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will unlock Anilaza and Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super). Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I have completed editing them. You can lock them again.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I will lock them back up.

Edit: I have done so.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. Is there anything left to do here?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

What changed?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Anilaza has a note specifying that the Super Saiyan Blue Goku that he fought isn't considered Low 2-C and Goku's profile also specifies this.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Ok.

 

[Mickey1940]

Anilaza has a note specifying that the Super Saiyan Blue Goku that he fought isn't considered Low 2-C and Goku's profile also specifies this.

wait why isn't he Low 2C again?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Because he had not been portrayed to be, or had shown any Low 2-C feats until after his fight with Anilaza. He even powered up again to fight Jire

He was also consistently shown to be equal to the rest of the 3-A fighters at that point in time.

 

[Mickey1940]

he didn't achieve any limit-breaks or zenkais after Anilaza though

the only difference was that he used Kaioken

so are you assuming that Kaioken is the reason why is SSGSS form is Low 2C? cause that doesn't make much sense

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Well, until the rest of the characters during the Anilaza fight are considered Low 2-C, neither Anilaza nor SSJB Goku can't be considered Low 2-C at that point in time.

Also Goku could fight somewhat on par with Jiren even before using Kaioken, however Jiren was still clearly superior.

 

[Mickey1940]

uhhh ok

I'll try to think that makes sense for the time being

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I don't exactly disagree with a higher rating for Anilaza, however his current tier seems to have been the consensus in this thread.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So is this concluded yet?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

It seems that everything has been discussed as far as I can see.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Alright, so should this thread be closed?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Yeah. I guess I'll close this.