• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Dragon Ball Super: Pretty Black Hole LS upgrade

Kachin Katchin is supposedly the densest material in the multiverse. So using Tungsten is a massive lowball, given its not even the densest material on earth. I would suggest using Osmium.

Another option would be neutron star material or nuclear pasta. Given every participant in the tournament is at least planet level and the strongest ones are comparable to gods of destruction I think it's worth considering.
Is it said to be the "densed" or the "most durable"? That makes a whole difference
 
Kachin Katchin is supposedly the densest material in the multiverse. So using Tungsten is a massive lowball, given its not even the densest material on earth. I would suggest using Osmium.

Another option would be neutron star material or nuclear pasta. Given every participant in the tournament is at least planet level and the strongest ones are comparable to gods of destruction I think it's worth considering.
Per now let's stay with the Class T end, i think It's better we discuss alternative methods for the calculation in the DB Discussion Thread
 
uuhhhh, so

Why arent ppl like Goku Black, Vegito Blue, or high end characters from GF arc and onwards scaling?

theres no amount of scaling that puts ToP Base Goku above his SSB self from initial arcs (at least not initial ToP to post UIS1 Base Goku which is being discussed here).

Having Krillin scale but not blatant SSB+ tier characters is asinine.
 
uuhhhh, so

Why arent ppl like Goku Black, Vegito Blue, or high end characters from GF arc and onwards scaling?

theres no amount of scaling that puts ToP Base Goku above his SSB self from initial arcs (at least not initial ToP to post UIS1 Base Goku which is being discussed here).

Having Krillin scale but not blatant SSB+ tier characters is asinine.
Probably because they ain't 6 unis? Idk💀
 
uuhhhh, so

Why arent ppl like Goku Black, Vegito Blue, or high end characters from GF arc and onwards scaling?

theres no amount of scaling that puts ToP Base Goku above his SSB self from initial arcs (at least not initial ToP to post UIS1 Base Goku which is being discussed here).

Having Krillin scale but not blatant SSB+ tier characters is asinine.
Blame DBS's shitty power scaling. There's not even a lot wrong with the scaling but DBS just makes it not make sense.
 
Blame DBS's shitty power scaling. There's not even a lot wrong with the scaling but DBS just makes it not make sense.
Yall can still work around DBS power scaling

Friendly reminder that theres official statement about Goku Black being the strongest non fused character at that arc.
That automatically makes Black and anyone who scales to him like SSR Trunks, Fused Zamasu, Vegito Blue, etc above at the very least around SSG Goku from the beginning of the ToP. Because the only hint of ToP Goku > post Black Goku was his perfomance against Dyspo compared to Hit. That would mean they all blatantly scale above a feat BASE ToP Goku can do. In fact pre ToP Goku was out of shape until like almost before the ToP happened so there was a hint he was actually weaker at some point.

Goku and co. didn't get ridiculously strong until Jiren rematch where he surpassed UIO with SSB which means he also surpassed FT Vegito form by form


Shit like 2 macrocosms only starts with Suppressed Jiren and UIO1 Goku, so thats an invalid excuse for ToP Base Goku > Black arc SSB tiers. ESPECIALLY when Gowasu and Shin stated that Vegito and Zamasu clashing are beyond their understanding of gods. And supreme kais are supposed to know that GoDs fighting can destroy 2 macrocosms. At best ToP SSG = FT arc SSB. And if yall follow multipliers (which in fact, I see used here. The most you can get is like Base Saiyans by the beginning of the ToP = SSJ2 from FT and U6 arcs).

DBS scaling is ridiculous, yes. But yall are making it EVEN worse.

Krillin > debut SSB, Black, Trunks, Zamasu and even frickin VEGITO BLUE is just ridiculous guys come on 💀💀💀
 
Last edited:
Back
Top