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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread XC
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Said what?ZERO7772 said:
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I think Gowasu said something about not feeling a energy like Merged Zamasu's in any of the other gods or something.
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It's a lot more legit in Moro's case.Super Saiyan God Julian said:
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Yeah, it's literally the same thing they said about Zamas, so nothing new.
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To be fair, he is fighting UIO Goku pretty comfortably rn, so it might have some validity. However, until further proof, we can't know if he is truly GoD level.
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Moro said that after stating that he ate countless planets and that's why he gained a power above the gods.
Toyotaro, why not just say galaxies or even stars? He doesn't even know the scope of his own series
Toyotaro, why not just say galaxies or even stars? He doesn't even know the scope of his own series
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You make it sounds like it matters if he ate stars or even galaxies. These guys had the power to blow up the universe in early parts of DBS and Moro was slapping SSG Vegeta with some Namek Lava.
The scope of the series already hit a dead end by the time Zamasu arc was introduced and where do you go from there tbh? They are not introducing infinite existing timelines anytime soon
The scope of the series already hit a dead end by the time Zamasu arc was introduced and where do you go from there tbh? They are not introducing infinite existing timelines anytime soon
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Stop downplaying...... they're Planet level++++++++.Nitro90 said:
This is backed up by Death Battle so it must be legit.
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And Dragon Ball Heroes seems to be spending all the big scale events with multiverse, timelines and the different realms of the setting. It kinda makes you wonder how can they scale things up anymore to make newer threats feel, well dangerous again.ZERO7772 said:
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It doesn't matter for the overall pacing.ZERO7772 said:
Exactly, they had the power to destroy galaxies, but as you said, the energy from a single planet was enough to hurt them. Suddenly, planets are a big deal to beings capable of wiping out galaxies, and that's why I said the other day that I was hoping to see Moro being powerful with the exclusive use of exotic techniques and not "merging timelines/busting universes" stuff.
Power of planets just doesn't feel right at this point. I guess that's because I'm used to the anime scaling, but it just doesn't feel right.
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You are asking too much I think.
Didn't DBZ tease back in the day that Goku would die from lava if he was hit directly by it back in Namek? Didn't Goku need earthling power to defeat Buu?
You say you are used to anime scaling, but even in anime, the best thing they could come up with after BoG was destroying some cites and city blocks at best. You can't have the universe blow up every-time 2 guys fight.
Heroes already took control of the whole "infinite timelines scale" meta so I really don't think you are going beyond someone being a threat to 1 universe.
Didn't DBZ tease back in the day that Goku would die from lava if he was hit directly by it back in Namek? Didn't Goku need earthling power to defeat Buu?
You say you are used to anime scaling, but even in anime, the best thing they could come up with after BoG was destroying some cites and city blocks at best. You can't have the universe blow up every-time 2 guys fight.
Heroes already took control of the whole "infinite timelines scale" meta so I really don't think you are going beyond someone being a threat to 1 universe.
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I don't know about the lava stuff, it's been a while since I've last read the manga. He did use earthling power to defeat Buu.
You're treating baseline feats like normal destruction of scenery. They don't destroy the universes because if they do everyone dies and the anime ends.
You're treating baseline feats like normal destruction of scenery. They don't destroy the universes because if they do everyone dies and the anime ends.
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I think there was a script or something like that for DBS Broly where Gogeta and Broly fought close to the SunNitro90 said:
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Yeah, like, I agree having "the power of planets" being relevant at this point is stupid, but having Goku go around destroying galaxies for no real reason doesn't seem right either.
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I mean yeah I get it. But at the same time we have them listed as MFTL+ so I think we have to get some more use out of it. I just want any change of scenery than the generic baron wasteland we've seen dozens of times. We already have Beerus and champa in the manga were flying through space during their fight anyway and Beerus and goku's fight was vaporizing planets, might as well expand upon that.
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To be fair that statement is from Moro himself so not objective at all. And what does he mean by God's? Can be everything.Zamasu Chan said:
To only person that really had a objective statement to be stronger than his God of destruction was Jiren. Even Whis said perhaps above that tier before powering up. Also Whis said that Jiren was stronger (indirect) than Beerus, I know it was an armwrestling thing but they saying it means something. It was also backed up by an promotional thing that Jiren is above GoD of destruction tier.
So by now Jiren still above Moro. Especially now we know that Jiren was keeping up with Silver Hair UI.
And we don't know if UI omen is stronger than Omen in ToP. Sure the statement from Picollo that he got stronger was in his Blue form previous chapter. In the latest chapter they said they don't know if he got stronger in his Omen because they can't read his chi.
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Why wouldn't Goku in UI Omen be stronger since his base is stronger than his ToP counterpart?
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"And we don't know if UI omen is stronger than Omen in ToP. Sure the statement from Picollo that he got stronger was in his Blue form previous chapter. In the latest chapter they said they don't know if he got stronger in his Omen because they can't read his chi."
Goku goes through all the ToP + Broly + extra training with Merus and he still is at the same power level as in the ToP?
Sure.
Goku goes through all the ToP + Broly + extra training with Merus and he still is at the same power level as in the ToP?
Sure.
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Tbf that's what happened between the Buu Saga and BoG & between Piccolo Jr. and Raditz, power increases seem exponetial to non-existant at times.
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Going by the manga, Goku's Super Saiyan in BoG potentially rivals his Super Saiyan 3 from the Buu Saga.
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This is stupid.
Goku said back in ToP that #17 is almost as strong as them, fast forward 16 chapters later, Saganbo was beating the hell out of him, a stronger Gohan, a stronger Piccolo, and #18. Comes Goku in Blue and he beats Saganbo senseless casually.
Why on earth would his blue form get stronger but his Omen form remain magically the same? Omen was growing alongside Goku every time he used it. It went from losing to a casual Jiren to fighting on equal foot with serious Jiren and even forced him to use his full power.
Now we are gonna doubt its growth?
Goku said back in ToP that #17 is almost as strong as them, fast forward 16 chapters later, Saganbo was beating the hell out of him, a stronger Gohan, a stronger Piccolo, and #18. Comes Goku in Blue and he beats Saganbo senseless casually.
Why on earth would his blue form get stronger but his Omen form remain magically the same? Omen was growing alongside Goku every time he used it. It went from losing to a casual Jiren to fighting on equal foot with serious Jiren and even forced him to use his full power.
Now we are gonna doubt its growth?
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Don't know. I hope not but I was one of those people that believed that base Goku could stomped final form freeza at the end of Buu. But Beerus said something that he could not in BoG saga.ZERO7772 said:
Assumptions in dragon ball is a bit.h
And really how much stronger did Goku really become after the 3 years training in the hyperbolic time champer (u6 vs u7 arc). Would you say that Goku at the end of Broly movie can stomp or dominate Golden Freeza in his blue form? Besides some mental training freeza didn't train anymore.
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> But Beerus said something that he could not in BoG saga.
Even I understood as a kid that Beerus was trying to find a way for Goku to transform.
Even I understood as a kid that Beerus was trying to find a way for Goku to transform.
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Yep. Not to mention that base Goku wasn't fully powered up, or powered up at all actually. So Beerus was measuring up a casual suppressed Goku, so of course he would say he can't beat Freeza. That's how I always interpreted it.Zamasu Chan said:
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In the Manga he said it after transforming in Ssj2. Don't know.
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