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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Iaakk said:
because Infinity is shown to be neutralized by power nullification?
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Cursed Techniques are neutralized by Domain Amplification.
A Domain Amplification functions by enveloping the user in an empty Domain into which an enemy's Cursed Technique is then poured, effectively BFR'ing its ability.
 
Iaakk said:
But I'm talking about power nullification in general. Nothing else. This is akin to how if every ki attack from DB will be count as normal chakra if we verse equalize DB and Naruto, nobody could beat Madara because he's immune to normal chakra.
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Power nullification Beerus is able to nullify 2-C energies, but yes it is quite capable.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Power nullification Beerus is able to nullify 2-C energies, but yes it is quite capable.
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Does the fact that the DE and DA being able to nullify infinity mean that it can nullify spatial manipulation and mathematical manipulation? And so, if we have a power nullification from let's say Demon Slayer, that wouldn't work against Infinity because of how weak it is compared to a DE and DA's power nullification? The same being for Beerus if he were to try to nullify a 1-C being?
 
Demon Slayers have power null???

Also, idk how Beerus power null going to interact with infinity, it could potentially null Cursed Energy since the only thing he show is nullifying energy, that all
 
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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
So, i don't understand calculations, how big did the planets become in terms that i can understand?
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An "average planet" in Dragon Ball now takes about 22.364 times more energy to destroy than the Earth. Made this comparison image that I thought was kinda cool.:
Super-Dragon-Ball-VS-Earth.png
 
That strongly depends on whether or not you think Beerus’ abilities would be able to directly interact with the medium of the Limitless. It only exists within Gojo’s precise control of Cursed Energy at the Atomic Level around him. Through his awareness and calculation, from both Six Eyes and his own Cursed Energy, he then goes through subconscious automatic consideration of various things to “stop” an oncoming attack. (By endlessly splitting space, slowing it down and outright preventing it from landing).

With that in mind, if you think Beerus can directly interact with the Cursed Energy that comprises what makes the Limitless exist and act within reality, then yeah, Beerus nullifies energy, so the medium ceases to exist and Beerus then can hit him in the brief moment it’s been turned off. (Similar to the Black Rope and Inverted Spear of Heaven, which directly interact with and nullify Cursed Energy and Cursed Technique).

If you think that Beerus’ nullification cannot, given most techniques don’t (no matter what) in JJK and directly must go against the manipulated space instead, Beerus would not.
 
Iaakk said:
So, if verse equalization exists, let's say Beerus and Gojo fight. Would Beerus's power nullification by basis be able to bypass Gojo's infinity because Infinity is shown to be neutralized by power nullification? So, since this is the same power system, Beerus can do the same?
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I think verse equalization is typically used to get around stupid 🤓"arguments" like "b-buh bleach charact-characters are g-ghosts an-and a-a-attack the s-soul directly!!" to basically worm around the meat and potatoes of a discussion that would otherwise be worthwhile. Like if Goku went to Bleach he couldn't technically even see or interact with the characters but anyone who takes themselves seriously isn't gonna pretend that's a valid reason to say he loses to a character in itself. Reiatsu Crush is a bit different but that's its own thing. This applies to a lot of verses. Like we assume standard Genjutsu should effect non-Naruto characters cause that's a whole fraction of what the Naruto verse has up its sleeve and discrediting it for such a plain reason is boring (though ocular Genjutsu doesn't need a Chakra system to work).
 
RinneItachi said:
I think verse equalization is typically used to get around stupid 🤓"arguments" like "b-buh bleach charact-characters are g-ghosts an-and a-a-attack the s-soul directly!!" to basically worm around the meat and potatoes of a discussion that would otherwise be worthwhile. Like if Goku went to Bleach he couldn't technically even see or interact with the characters but anyone who takes themselves seriously isn't gonna pretend that's a valid reason to say he loses to a character in itself. Reiatsu Crush is a bit different but that's its own thing. This applies to a lot of verses. Like we assume standard Genjutsu should effect non-Naruto characters cause that's a whole fraction of what the Naruto verse has up its sleeve and discrediting it for such a plain reason is boring (though ocular Genjutsu doesn't need a Chakra system to work).
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Verse equalization should be assumed for some things. Like, if a Rinnegan user fights a Ki user, it should be assumed that they can absorb Ki with the Preta Path.
 
RinneItachi said:
Sure though I think they would die if they tried to absorb a blast from any noteworthy Dragon Ball character.
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You'd think that, but I don't think there's a limit to their absorption, it'll just distribute throughout their body to replenish their energy and empower them. Sasuke pulled in Kurama's poisonous chakra and was unfazed. Furthermore, to my knowledge, DB characters' attacks aren't necessarily about Ki volume, it's potency, so I sincerely doubt it's gonna be more of an issue to contain than 9 Bijuu.

If you meant the speed would cause it to hit before they could block it, then vape them, I agree.
 
SlendVeny said:
You'd think that, but I don't think there's a limit to their absorption, it'll just distribute throughout their body to replenish their energy and empower them. Sasuke pulled in Kurama's poisonous chakra and was unfazed. Furthermore, to my knowledge, DB characters' attacks aren't necessarily about Ki volume, it's potency, so I sincerely doubt it's gonna be more of an issue to contain than 9 Bijuu.

If you meant the speed would cause it to hit before they could block it, then vape them, I agree.
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Well we've seen that excessive amounts of Chakra can harm the user I'm pretty sure. If they could convert Ki into Chakra, even a regular yellow Ki blast from one of the Z Fighters would exceed their maximum Chakra over thousands of times. I just doubt they can handle that much power.
 
Iaakk said:
Does the fact that the DE and DA being able to nullify infinity mean that it can nullify spatial manipulation and mathematical manipulation? And so, if we have a power nullification from let's say Demon Slayer, that wouldn't work against Infinity because of how weak it is compared to a DE and DA's power nullification? The same being for Beerus if he were to try to nullify a 1-C being?
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Beerus' (and GoDs') nullification is EE based, I'd assume AP value of the attack would not matter, but EE resistance is unless you mean low1c HDE being?
 
It happened and you are not dreaming, Daishinkan humiliates Zeno who cannot even see Daishinkan's movements, Daishinkan ends up transforming the ball american football into a human

Zeno takes speedblitz from Dyspo
 
Jaakor48 said:
Beerus' (and GoDs') nullification is EE based, I'd assume AP value of the attack would not matter, but EE resistance is unless you mean low1c HDE being?
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So could Beerus and Goku technically bypass infinity though inherit power nullification and that's it if we apply verse equalization?
 
So.. if you say had a scythe and put the sharp bit behind gojo, and pull it forward- would it be feasible to over come infinite with sheer strength? Has good ever stopped ab object actively being pushed at him like a sword?

If goku graved a scythe and flow in the opposite direction at MFTL+ speeds, would goku be stopped in his tracks???
 
RinneItachi said:
Sure though I think they would die if they tried to absorb a blast from any noteworthy Dragon Ball character.
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Indeed considering Madara was forced to absorb so much Chakra from the Infinite Tsukuyomi that his Jūbi Jinchūriki body was expanding like an overfilled water balloon ready to burst. If you want a direct correlation to the Rinnegan, or at least an ability that directly absorbs Chakra, Madara couldn't absorb the full energy of War Arc Naruto's Rasenshuriken, leaving his hand steaming as he says "Too much Chakra" and Delta tried to absorb a massive Rasengan from Naruto that was pumping out so much Chakra that it shorted out her ability to even do that.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
So.. if you say had a scythe and put the sharp bit behind gojo, and pull it forward- would it be feasible to over come infinite with sheer strength? Has good ever stopped ab object actively being pushed at him like a sword?

If goku graved a scythe and flow in the opposite direction at MFTL+ speeds, would goku be stopped in his tracks???
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Doesn't matter how strong you are, you need high 3A+ range or infinite speed to overcome infinity via sheer movement

Mftl+ speeds would still take an infinite amount of time to cross an infinite distance
 
What happened to the scale of the 3 Gods in the tournament who were fighting with their strength and only affected the arena



After that Jiren is shown shaking the whole world from the void, which no God of Destruction has been able to do when fighting



I remember there was something similar here before, but somehow the scale of the 3 Gods being scaled for Jiren and company came out, which would be around 3 Universes and 9 separate space-times ( according to 3 space-times back in the day ).
 
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