Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[LuffyRuffy46307]

@Jaakor48 here's the size of the vortex :

This part that says it swallows the Universe seems quite interesting



ごはん どう けれど悟飯は動じない。

それどころか、なぜかニヤリと笑みを浮かべてさえいる。 せんとう この ほんのうごはん 戦闘を 好むサイヤ人として本能が悟飯をそうさせているのか。

ちょうきょだいきだん つきぎょうしゅく 超巨大な気弾をうみだしたセルマックスは、エネルギーをギュンッと一気に凝縮させた。 うちゅうめ ちょうきょうりょく きだん 右手で持ちあげられるほどの大きさだが、宇宙を飲みこむブラックホールのような超強力なセルマックスの気弾は、まわりか きゅうしゅう らエネルギーを吸収して、さらにどんどんパワーをあげる。


How about dinner? But Gohan remains unfazed.


On the contrary, for some reason he even smiled. He sat down: As a Saiyan who loves combat, would Gohan's instincts lead him to do this?


Cellmax, who produced a gigantic energy bullet, condensed the energy all at once.


Although it is large enough to be lifted with Uchu's right hand, Cellmax's super-powerful air bullet, like a black hole swallowing the universe, absorbs energy from the environment and becomes even
more powerful.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

the post-luffy era man...

I already told you, Null

I don't like your jokes about me

 

[Prime2024]

This part that says it swallows the Universe seems quite interesting



ごはん どう けれど悟飯は動じない。

それどころか、なぜかニヤリと笑みを浮かべてさえいる。 せんとう この ほんのうごはん 戦闘を 好むサイヤ人として本能が悟飯をそうさせているのか。

ちょうきょだいきだん つきぎょうしゅく 超巨大な気弾をうみだしたセルマックスは、エネルギーをギュンッと一気に凝縮させた。 うちゅうめ ちょうきょうりょく きだん 右手で持ちあげられるほどの大きさだが、宇宙を飲みこむブラックホールのような超強力なセルマックスの気弾は、まわりか きゅうしゅう らエネルギーを吸収して、さらにどんどんパワーをあげる。


How about dinner? But Gohan remains unfazed.


On the contrary, for some reason he even smiled. He sat down: As a Saiyan who loves combat, would Gohan's instincts lead him to do this?


Cellmax, who produced a gigantic energy bullet, condensed the energy all at once.


Although it is large enough to be lifted with Uchu's right hand, Cellmax's super-powerful air bullet, like a black hole swallowing the universe, absorbs energy from the environment and becomes even
more powerful.

Via scaling it would make sense tbh

 

[Nullflowerblush]

ブラックホール

wow, look at that; the kanji for black holes.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Via scaling it would make sense tbh

Really.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

like a black hole swallowing the universe, absorbs energy from the environment

The black hole is being mentioned figuratively to emphasize Cell Max's ability to absorb energy.
It's called a simile.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'll go back to reading cultivation manga, you guys deal with the black hole thing, I'll go back and see what the results are

 

[StrymULTRA]

Manga Z gets f*cked

Kid Buu after that Moro arc retcon moment.

 

[Jinsama]

Ya wanna know whats funny? You could fill an entire Olympic swimming pool with evidence when it comes to Universal Kid Buu.

Then you got DBS manga und Toriyamas statement.

Yall still believe stuff like Cell solar system from statements.
Bruh.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Ya wanna know whats funny? You could fill an entire Olympic swimming pool with evidence when it comes to Universal Kid Buu.

Then you got DBS manga und Toriyamas statement.

Yall still believe stuff like Cell solar system from statements.
Bruh.

As I said, Akira gave a nice retcon to the Buu saga, I think we should make a crt to change the tiers of the Buu saga characters

 

[Jaakor48]

@Jaakor48 here's the size of the vortex :

At the very least, I assume it may be possible to calculate the force based on the amount of gas the vortex is affecting

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Yall still believe stuff like Cell solar system from statements.
Bruh.

I'm lost; clue me in.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Kid Buu after that Moro arc retcon moment.

Unless you're making SSJ3 Goku who is unthinkably below even Base Cabbe, scale to Moro or Jiren, let's stop.
It's easier to assume Kid Buu didn't know how to even use that God Ki of his, otherwise circular scaling do be circular scaling.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

You can fill an entire Olympic swimming pool with evidence when it comes to Universal Kid Buu.

Size of a pool with all evidences for 3-A Kid Buu:

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Kid Buu after that Moro arc retcon moment.

I thought I was the only one thinking this, but thanks for showing an equal opinion.

 

[Prime2024]

Size of a pool with all evidences for 3-A Kid Buu:

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

wow, look at that; the kanji for black holes.

Wow, look at that, it's a simile. It doesn't scale to a real black hole.

Of course, I didn't know the black hole portion was at another page than the one I was translating. However this one wouldn't imply any meaningful upgrades.

 

[Prime2024]

Of course, I didn't know the black hole portion was at another page than the one I was translating. However this one wouldn't imply any meaningful upgrades.

It would

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

The way how the attack was described (strong gravitational pull that creates a vortex, absorbing energy and objects,...etc etc), it can possibly refer to a black hole or at least an attack with the same potency as a black hole.

From a translation standpoint, word for word. It doesn't really mention a black hole.

However y'all seem to have another page that says the exact same lines I translated, only with the BH part mentioned as an extra. In my scene Gohan is about to use the Makankosappo.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

It would

Sharing properties that remind one of a black hole would not scale to an actual black hole, it's a simile, a comparison by proxy.
"Wow, this metal is hot like a flame"

So how would we even implement this?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Unless you're making SSJ3 Goku who is unthinkably below even Base Cabbe, scale to Moro or Jiren, let's stop.
It's easier to assume Kid Buu didn't know how to even use that God Ki of his, otherwise circular scaling do be circular scaling.

Topaz when SSJ3 Goku was Rick Roll'd from Kid Buu and even admitted that the latter was just toying with him.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I thought I was the only one thinking this, but thanks for showing an equal opinion.

That's one of the things this Wiki is too afraid to admit

 

[Prime2024]

Sharing properties that remind one of a black hole would not scale to an actual black hole, it's a simile, a comparison by proxy.
"Wow, this metal is hot like a flame"

So how would we even implement this?

We can just calculate it's gravitational force, I'm pretty sure it's possible

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That's one of the things this Wiki is too afraid to admit

I think so too, would you mind taking it a step further and trying Buu saga tier 3?

 

[StrymULTRA]

I think so too, would you mind taking it a step further and trying Buu saga tier 3?

Only Kid Buu and Vegito would scale.

Regardless I had Kid Buu > Buuhan for a good while anyway.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Of course, I didn't know the black hole portion was at another page than the one I was translating.

It wasn't. This is a different excerpt entirely.
The black hole they were referring to was the jet-black sphere.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Only Kid Buu and Vegito would scale.

Regardless I had Kid Buu > Buuhan for a good while anyway.

Yes, it seems reasonable to me, are we close to making the Buu tier 3 saga?

Yes, kid Buu is the strongest Majin Buu of all, I think the others don't scale with that ( Majin Buu )

 

[Nullflowerblush]

oh this'll be grand

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

oh this'll be grand

Yes, little brother Null

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I feel like I'm older, I might be wrong, though.
I'm older than most.

 

[Huesito88]

I feel like I'm older, I might be wrong, though.
I'm older than most.

According to your profile your 78 hmmmm =/

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I feel like I'm older, I might be wrong, though.
I'm older than most.

I'm 25 years old and you're Null?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

But if you consider how long I've been here, then I'm 3 years old.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Yes, it seems reasonable to me, are we close to making the Buu tier 3 saga?

Yes, kid Buu is the strongest Majin Buu of all, I think the others don't scale with that ( Majin Buu )

No. It'd just bump Manga Kid Buu and Vegito to 2-C.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

No. It'd just bump Manga Kid Buu and Vegito to 2-C.

This is going to be interesting, do you have something in mind?

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Topaz when SSJ3 Goku was Rick Roll'd from Kid Buu and even admitted that the latter was just toying with him.

Strym when several guides stated their abilities/power is equal:

Strym when the gap between Kid Buu and SSJ3 Goku should be so high Goku should bore Kid Buu, and Buu should one shot the mf:

Strym when simply having god ki doesn't do anything, you need evidence of scaling and Uub might scale to Buu, but the reverse isn't possible (because Uub has the potential to be stronger):

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Kid Buu is objectively not the strongest Majin Buu in the manga, I'll fight literally everyone on that belief.

EDIT: And I mean debate. I might have to explain that I'm using "fight" in a joking context otherwise I might get cooked.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

We can just calculate it's gravitational force, I'm pretty sure it's possible

How? Based on what?
If you provide a satisfying solution I'll volunteer, damn.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

It wasn't. This is a different excerpt entirely.
The black hole they were referring to was the jet-black sphere.

I assume you meant, Chapter? Is the Black Hole present in two separate chapters? Damn.
Either way, the black orb was just said to be doing things similarly to what a Black Hole would do (absorb energy), it still wouldn't scale.

 

[Jaakor48]

Pretty sure kid Buu didn't actually access the god ki within him, only thing that stopped Goku from ending him was the massive strain that ssj3 put on an actual living body which he didn't expect