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I don't know who tf that is but Goku solos.Who wins
Ssj4 Naz (Young Jiji's Dragon Ball AF) vs Current Ultra Instinct Goku (Super Manga)
Idk Young Jiji's Dragon Ball AF takes place post GT and it has more arcs and remember they scale all the way down from 3 universes due to buuhanI don't know who tf that is but Goku solos.
UI Goku, UE Vegeta, Orange Piccolo, Gohan Beast, Broly could each probably solo all of the GoDs except Beerus. Beerus reveals he was only using 0.01% of his power against the other GoDs in the Zen exhibition royale and knocks out all of the Z-Fighters with a single flick of the finger.Planet Earth (and Broly) vs all the GoDs besides Beerus.
YesBtw, does Buuhan's feat scales to the whole macrocosm or not? And if it does, why exactly? I saw some people saying It was baseline 2-C some time ago but everyone treats It as 3U 2-C
Remember when dude was tier 0
I remember back in the days he's tier 0 and people meatride him.I remember when peeps use to meat ride Kami tenchi back then
Its amazing how he fell off
Nobody even remembers himI remember back in the days he's tier 0 and people meatride him.
Now, he's not even in tier 1-A.
Legit, I forgot about him even existed.Nobody even remembers him
He was just another Power level flavor of the month like so many other s
It's just living world I think, macrocosm may be due to environmental destructionBtw, does Buuhan's feat scales to the whole macrocosm or not? And if it does, why exactly? I saw some people saying It was baseline 2-C some time ago but everyone treats It as 3U 2-C
No one make the character profile yetWhat's up with Demonbane mythos page? I can't view the mechs
I recall back in the days there's profiles for them, why they deleted it?No one make the character profile yet
Deleted before, due to.......well.......constant downgrade and things that i don't remember, the verse was downgraded from tier 0 to tier 2, then people decide to delete the entire verse cause it was a mess, it just got revived recentlyI recall back in the days there's profiles for them, why they deleted it?
I fully remember that. Though, Demonbane is still a top dog verse, it's just the scaling is a nightmare to do.Demonbane scaling was always a nightmare, thankfully the verse has become kind of forgotten in the powerscaling community, I was sick of talking about it lol.
I remember those days, when Tenchi Muyo, Demonbane, TOAA, and The Presence were treated as like, the god-tiers of fiction or whatever.
Ye.I fully remember that. Though, Demonbane is still a top dog verse, it's just the scaling is a nightmare to do.
Inconsistent characters and verse do make a nightmare for powerscaler. Tell me, is Dragon Ball a nightmare to powerscale? My answer is kind off.Ye.
I mean I just ignore verses with wonky scaling. Esp when the scaling is so contentious that no one even agrees anymore. Bleach is my fav example of that prob. Like, people vary on Bleach scaling so much, that for just the peak of the verse, opinions vary anywhere from around planetary to high-universal (including everything in-between) and I'm just like "You gotta be trolling right?", and some people try to get it higher than that. So I just don't even talk about it anymore lol.
Yujiro Hanma is also literally one of the most inconsistent characters I have ever seen. Sometimes he's compared to entire nations and nuclear bombs, then he's being given a nice fight by people who are renown for killing tigers and performing wall level feats like tf? And this is just all the time. Sometimes he shakes skyscrapers by just being mad or stopped an earthquake by punching the ground, then it's considered impressive for him to deflect a god damn whale harpoon lmao. His speed ain't much better.
Kind of. It depends on who you're talking to tho. I think Dragon Ball is actually way more consistent than people give it credit for (besides the DBS anime maybe, oh and OG Dragon Ball for sure) but due to the scope of the franchise there's a lot of scattered feats and statements people will use to say this and that, I try to stick to a more middle-ground that's more easily agreeable and understandable (and also narratively fitting).Inconsistent characters and verse do make a nightmare for powerscaler. Tell me, is Dragon Ball a nightmare to powerscale? My answer is kind off.
Yeah I mean DC is never gonna be consistent, that's the problem with having a BUNCH of different writers. That's why SCP verse scaling is the biggest nightmare.This is probably why DC get downgraded to oblivion in here, just because the cosmology keep changing and changing while the important event also changing and changing.
The cosmic beings also changing and changing, unlike Marvel which had in-verse explanation (TOAA changes the cosmology every now and then. Albeit, little lazy for them to said so)
What having bunch of writers does to a franchise cosmology and consistency.Yeah I mean DC is never gonna be consistent, that's the problem with having a BUNCH of different writers. That's why SCP verse scaling is the biggest nightmare.
Yeah it's p easy to understand how strong the abstracts and such are for the MOST part.
I will create an articel about SCP-X-191 that would downgrade SCP cosmology to Planetary at best by stating everything above Planetary is not canon.That's why SCP verse scaling is the biggest nightmare.
If everything is canon, nothing is canon. There is no legitimate canon from a general perspective, not even a "main canon", and saying it all exists at once, is ludicrous, to the point of simply being a laughable remark. Even on the wiki itself, there is a page which explains that in some stories the Foundation can be as small as a tiny government agency limited to even as small as just one Site that barely dabbles in anything related to the supernatural, among practically infinite other possible versions.I will create an articel about SCP-X-191 that would downgrade SCP cosmology to Planetary at best by stating everything above Planetary is not canon.
Screw the everything is Canon, that's why DC get downgraded.
This is why you shouldn't make a character ridiculously overpowered like that. Transcending narrative and keep evolving to no end.The SCP-3812 author hates the concept of powerscaling. Man's literally had a mental breakdown on Twitter because people kept bothering him about how 3812 compares to other verses.
The worst thing is that the SCP-3812 author's interpretation of 3812 is without a doubt VASTLY different from ours.This is why you shouldn't make a character ridiculously overpowered like that. Transcending narrative and keep evolving to no end.
HIGH 1-A GOKU WHEN? WORD OF GOD IS ABSOLUTE.The worst thing is that the SCP-3812 author's interpretation of 3812 is without a doubt VASTLY different from ours.
We take statements from stories he had literally nothing to do with and apply 3812 to them. We also don't agree with the fundamental idea that the character was made with. djKaktus wrote 3812 to be able to transcend literally, a n y t h i n g, I'm not saying that means he should be considered omnipotent, but like, the author genuinely wrote him that way and has said it again numerous times. But obv due to NLF and such we can't take it seriously. This alone creates a gap that makes it impossible for us to properly demonstrate how strong 3812 was meant to be. I could talk about this for a while lol.
Anyways, yeah the fact we treat different stories by diff authors as applying to each other is silly. djKaktus said during his mental breakdown that if we want Goku to be stronger than 3812 then he is, and vice versa, cause it doesn't matter and it's just a story. 1-A Goku upgrade when? Like let's just on g remove SCP mythos from the wiki it doesn't work in this environment.
Exactly, which is why scaling 3812 can't work because the idea his author made him with literally contradicts the idea of NLF. The author never, ever, wrote 3812 as just transcending a narrative portrayed as a "representation of our reality". djKaktus, or I should say, Ben, wrote 3812 actually transcending our reality, which Ben has restated numerous times outside of the article. Iirc he also said 3812>Swann's Proposal for the same reason. At that point, WHY would we take 3812 seriously? This is the same reason that Suggsverse isn't on the wiki, main diff being that djKaktus only had an interest in making a cool and compelling character that was OP to suit the main idea of the character, not to be OP for the sake of it.HIGH 1-A GOKU WHEN? WORD OF GOD IS ABSOLUTE.
Lol, yeah. 3812 transcends anything is no limit fallacy and that's no good. It's like saying Hakai can erase Zen'ō despite Zen'ō possibly have resistance against literally everything in Dragon Ball.
His idea of 'OP' is crazy ass. Though, I can hack 3812 and erased it out of internet, does that made me Infinite layers beyond tier 0?/sdjKaktus only had an interest in making a cool and compelling character that was OP to suit the main idea of the character, not to be OP for the sake of it.
DBS Goku stats equalized?His idea of 'OP' is crazy ass. Though, I can hack 3812 and erased it out of internet, does that made me Infinite layers beyond tier 0?/s
If only Goku hax wasn't so broken, i could made a stats equalize match between UT CC Goku vs the Big Three like Luffy, Naruto, and Ichigo.
DBS Goku is near haxless, though. His only hax I can think off is Hakai which is great, but not enough. Meanwhile, if I used Universe Tree Goku, even stats equalize, it's still a mismatch.DBS Goku stats equalized?
Really puts into perspective that we argue about some drawn figures .The worst thing is that the SCP-3812 author's interpretation of 3812 is without a doubt VASTLY different from ours.
We take statements from stories he had literally nothing to do with and apply 3812 to them. We also don't agree with the fundamental idea that the character was made with. djKaktus wrote 3812 to be able to transcend literally, a n y t h i n g, I'm not saying that means he should be considered omnipotent, but like, the author genuinely wrote him that way and has said it again numerous times. But obv due to NLF and reality-fiction scaling and such we can't take it seriously. Not to mention, djKaktus doesn't know about the tiering system or even a lot of tiering system ideas in general, and the ideas within the tiering system used for his characters would just confuse him or make him laugh I'd imagine. All of this creates a gap that makes it impossible for us to properly demonstrate how strong 3812 was meant to be in djKaktus writing, and besides which he doesn't care anyways. I could talk about this for a while lol.
Anyways, yeah the fact we treat different stories by diff authors as applying to each other is silly. djKaktus said during his mental breakdown that if we want Goku to be stronger than 3812 then he is, and vice versa, cause it doesn't matter and it's just a story. 1-A Goku upgrade when? Like let's just on g remove SCP mythos from the wiki it doesn't work in this environment.
Probably, most people in here have too much time in their hand.Really puts into perspective that we argue about some drawn figures .
FBI are calling, they want to offer you a jobHis idea of 'OP' is crazy ass. Though, I can hack 3812 and erased it out of internet, does that made me Infinite layers beyond tier 0?/s
Tell them to piss off.FBI are calling, they want to offer you a job
No one will know the difference, if they do not actually research Heroes and just know it on surface levelAnyway, I legit debate with someone that thought DBS Goku is the strongest Goku we have and that DBS Goku = CC Goku, even though they have major key difference.
Seraphim Goku is an old meme iirc, Ultra Vegito is just vague lol. But probably means Ultra Ego Vegito in modern day.Do anyone in here know what or who the hell is Seraphim Goku or Ultra Vegito? Those name always appear in my YouTube recommendation.