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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Phsccarvalho said:
So what will be the first thing we should do after 5D passes?

Wait to see if someone will create a downgrade crt a second later?

See the sizing of some characters? Like Beerus having the power to erase Arale.

Or do something else?
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Work on and release a complete cosmology blog. You will all be hurting yourselves without one.
 
Ss3micah said:
This piece of advice is REALLY needed here more so than anything else because some of us have already taken off for the Sun and are using it as our stove to cook.
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Some of these mfs are going to build a Dyson Sphere to cook up a Low 1-C Goku or Jiren thread
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Goku had Supernatural Willpower but I doubt the Kaio-Ken suffices. Surviving the Ultra Divine Water seems like a much better argument.

For context the two DB characters with Supernatural Willpower are Vegeta for breaking mind control and Freeza for staying sane in Hell while paralysed for around 20 years.
 
Magicomethkuon said:
I think some of Babidi's quotes talk about his willpower. But I'd need to look at the whole sequence of events again and I don't have access to DB raws. It is another reason why I'm asking here first, because I think it would make it easier to fact check without running the risk of mistranslation.
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Copy Vegeta even resisted Commenson's mind control as with his willpower, which was apparently once said to be capable of creating massive armies over his control to invade planets.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Goku had Supernatural Willpower but I doubt the Kaio-Ken suffices. Surviving the Ultra Divine Water seems like a much better argument.

For context the two DB characters with Supernatural Willpower are Vegeta for breaking mind control and Freeza for staying sane in Hell while paralysed for around 20 years.
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Me too, but i posted this because it's what's on his profile
 
SwordLegendz01 said:
Copy Vegeta even resisted Commenson's mind control as with his willpower, which was apparently once said to be capable of creating massive armies over his control to invade planets.
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CryoTheMayo said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Goku had Supernatural Willpower but I doubt the Kaio-Ken suffices. Surviving the Ultra Divine Water seems like a much better argument.

For context the two DB characters with Supernatural Willpower are Vegeta for breaking mind control and Freeza for staying sane in Hell while paralysed for around 20 years.
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This and that. Also Supernatural Willpower is already accepted on Goku's profile for that reason.
 
omegabronic said:
how do we know that?
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XXBenShapiroXx said:
Goku should reasonably scale to Vegeta's mental resistance but that requires, guess what, reasoning, and that's not really what we do here when it comes to Dragon Ball

Case in point
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Well, by comparison of feats. Goku already has supernatural willpower accepted in his profile. Vegeta's accepted means of resisting Babidi's mind control was sheer willpower. Unless Vegeta's mental resistance or Babidi's magic of mind control turns out to be layered, I think it's not a logical leap to say that the feats of each are at least comparable (I am in fact leaning towards Goku's feats being better than Vegeta's since the water straight up kills and that sounds like a step up from mind control). If I remember it right, one of Korin's quotes also state that the water had magical properties, yet another reason to compare the feats unless this last part a mistranslation.
 
Magicomethkuon said:
Well, by comparison of feats. Goku already has supernatural willpower accepted in his profile. Vegeta's accepted means of resisting Babidi's mind control was sheer willpower. Unless Vegeta's mental resistance or Babidi's magic of mind control turns out to be layered, I think it's not a logical leap to say that the feats of each are at least comparable (I am in fact leaning towards Goku's feats being better than Vegeta's since the water straight up kills and that seems like a step up from mind control). If I remember it right, one of Korin's quotes also state that the water had magical properties, yet another reason to compare the feats unless this last part a mistranslation.
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Oh I fully agree, but this site didn't even give Jiren resistance to EE despite reasonably scaling above people who could resist it. I don't know of that's been fixed or not, but you get the idea.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Oh I fully agree, but this site didn't even give Jiren resistance to EE despite reasonably scaling above people who could resist it. I don't know of that's been fixed or not, but you get the idea.
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This is more on the willpower component of ki rather than "greater ki power meaning it should scale". I'm thinking they're on to something
 
Magicomethkuon said:
Well, by comparison of feats. Goku already has supernatural willpower accepted in his profile. Vegeta's accepted means of resisting Babidi's mind control was sheer willpower. Unless Vegeta's mental resistance or Babidi's magic of mind control turns out to be layered, I think it's not a logical leap to say that the feats of each are at least comparable (I am in fact leaning towards Goku's feats being better than Vegeta's since the water straight up kills and that sounds like a step up from mind control). If I remember it right, one of Korin's quotes also state that the water had magical properties, yet another reason to compare the feats unless this last part a mistranslation.
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Piccolo also thinks Babidi wouldn't be able to control someone as powerful as Dabura, and Kibito explains that it's because he controls them through evil, there's also Vegeta letting Babidi control him by his own will which would probably mean he wouldn't be controlled if he didn't want to
 
Hasty12345 said:
I'm working on a 7D timeline upgrade which if successful would result in 6D Goku but don't tell anyone, they think I'm a mad man
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This will definitely cause uhhh, discussions
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