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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

AwkguyDB said:
Goku vs Arceus is in order
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I get Goku is obviously more important, has the Keysword and everyone would go for him first but I feel like Grand Priest vs Arceus would be more fitting with their divine authorities in Low 1-C cosmologies.

Also if Grand Priest won it'd make up for that really dumb match years ago when DBH was still 2-B and DBH Grand Priest lost to Darkrai because 'sleep hax'.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
To clarify, according to the manga the four greatest beings in existence are:
  • Zeno (greatest being in existence according to Whis)
  • The Grand Priest ('the mightiest of all beings' according to Whis)
  • Super Shenron (can grant any wish according to The Grand Priest)
  • Zuno (Not in power but in the fact that he knows everything in the multiverse and the Granolah Saga hammered in that information is equal to power.)
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I think that the Grand Priest is the strongest fighter, but Zeno is the strongest because as once said, he doesn't fight. Just ees anything that slightly inconveniences him on sight (and probably along with its whole universe).
 
007_Sulista said:
How many time will pass after the low 1-c revision get approved to someone create a match with Xeno characters or Zeno? I bet in less than a day
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if it wasent for the 6D archie upgrade going on right now i would have done Archie Shadow vs CC Vegeta off the bat when it dropped
 
Magicomethkuon said:
I think that the Grand Priest is the strongest fighter, but Zeno is the strongest because as once said, he doesn't fight. Just ees anything that slightly inconveniences him on sight (and probably along with its whole universe).
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I do suspect Toyotaro/Toriyama is setting up a trinity between Grand Priest, Zeno and Super Shenron with them each being the strongest being in different ways. I'd guess it's:
  • Grand Priest has the strongest body (mightiest fighter)
  • Zeno has the strongest Ki (most powerful being and can end existence on a whim)
  • Super Shenron has the strongest magic (its magic can do anything according to Grand Priest and Zeno)
I think that's setup with Ultra Instinct (Grand Priest, Angels, Goku) and Ultra Ego (Zeno, Beerus, Vegeta) so it'd only be lacking the magical component. I could see something like (Zalama, Super Shenron, Piccolo) being a thing.
 
I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?
 
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CryoTheMayo said:
I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?
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Yes whis rewinding the overarching timeline is pretty straightforward like I said if they refused to accept it and said he only rewinded time for u7 then this should be added as a further proof of u7 having there own time dimension
 
I just hate it when people think that dbh characters are just dbs characters but with buff stats and they don't posses any notable haxs
 
CryoTheMayo said:
I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?
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It look more like a chain reaction than something else entirely
 
CryoTheMayo said:
I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?
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I think this will be seen as more proof for U7 having it's own time axis because the alternative is accepting that angels can destabilize an entire timeline with just their time powers
 
Hasty12345 said:
we stay winning
Edit:
vsbattles.com

Re:evulation of temporal dimension standards

At the moment we'll just have to rewrite the FAQ since the current one doesn't properly convey the intended message. DT stated that he would write a more comprehensive and more understandable draft. I think we can wait for him.
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

maybe spoke too soon
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huh? Nah were good, read it, this is what i meant when i said that lol. Additional time direction is by default lmao, thats what DT meant. If its a higher time axis, its an additional direction. We don't have to prove sideways time anymore and nobody can say anything.
 
Reiner said:
So now a timeless void with time dimension would qualify as well? Hmmm.
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I think he said it's the opposite, it wouldn't because timeless means it's supposed to not have time


However can you ask him if someone adding time and space to a timeless void would count? That's what the GP did basically
 
Jaakor48 said:
I think he said it's the opposite, it wouldn't because timeless means it's supposed to not have time


However can you ask him if someone adding time and space to a timeless void would count? That's what the GP did basically
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I mean, it shouldn't qualify if it was adding time and space.

What I meant is that if Timeless void in real has evidence of lacking time in the show, and is reliable, but still has evidence of being under time that is different from regular time should qualify. Basically, Ben 10's white void before creation of timestream.
 
Reiner said:
I mean, it shouldn't qualify if it was adding time and space.

What I meant is that if Timeless void in real has evidence of lacking time in the show, and is reliable, but still has evidence of being under time that is different from regular time should qualify. Basically, Ben 10's white void before creation of timestream.
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Oh okay

Then yea
 
Or someone starting a ******* Low 1-C Jiren thread either by using Jiren > Infinite Zamasu statement or Jiren resisting 5D time hax.
 
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