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https://preview.redd.it/kyqsmhmuuso...77590fae2693c990b25a4ae2&app_web_view=android
Can you check this out.
Can you check this out.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Serlock_Holmes
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It seems to be good?
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I have a question, would anything even benefit from this 5-D proposition?
Serlock_Holmes
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Beerus, Goku and anyone who can destroy it. Also the DB verse might be bumped to 6-d and zeno as well. No idea if it's useful though.
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Ok can someone give a brief rundown of what the 5-D timeline stuff is about and it's purpose?
Serlock_Holmes
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That's something different I think. The image I posted.
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Not accepted here
Serlock_Holmes
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How so? It's pretty self explanatory.
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Any reasons why not
Serlock_Holmes
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I mean it's perfectly clear.
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Well the premise was that the timelines in DB operate on a higher time axis from the lower spacetimes, spanning 4D objects instead of 3D objects. With there being proof that the spacetimes in DB make their own separate time, hence, being on a separate axis. The pendulum room, since every macrocosms should have one, it's not the source of temporality for the entire multiverse, which would contradict everything.
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This isn't even Tier 1 anyway. Buzzwords alone don't make the tier.
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Uh, not sure the exact justifications, but i would assume it's because there's no evidence of it being another spatial axis
Serlock_Holmes
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It says dimensionally transcendent? What do you mean Buzzwords don't make the tier?
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...And? Do we have further context as to what that entails. Is there anything showcasing them treating the universe as infinitesimal or insignificant in scope to that degree?
Tiers don't happen cause of just mentioning "transcendent" in a sentence.
Serlock_Holmes
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So you are saying because they haven't explicitly shown it that this statement can be thrown away. I mean dimensionally transcendental is pretty clear. Transcending on it's own isn't a good word but dimensionally transcendent is another thing entirely.
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Low 1-C timelines are way more solid
Serlock_Holmes
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But with this they could be 6-D. Imagine da possibilities. Though given Planck's stance it's a nothing burger with mac sauce.
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Yes? We don't just give tiers to statements without further context unless they're very self-explanatory. Say, "He destroyed all of space and time!", "The Realm sprawled out to infinity!", etc.
"Dimensionally transcendent" can mean anything from merely being from another dimension in the sense of separate space-times, being Tier 1 or even being intangible or formless.
But eh, try your luck if you feel strongly enough about it.
Serlock_Holmes
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Eh I already got one downvote from you. Only one more is needed so I ain't standing on a good ground to do it. Thanks for at least preemptively sparing me from doing the task though.
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I was trying to explain this too DBZ Fans on Battle Wiki Reddit,
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Well, different people have different standards. There is nothing wrong with taking things at face value, within reason of course, but that's just not in line with this site's standards for better or for worse.I was trying to explain this too DBZ Fans on Battle Wiki Reddit,
A piece of fiction isn't going to go out of its way to make sure it meets our exact requirements for things like this, so it's up to us to create a fair yet thorough set of standards to define this stuff.
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Yes, sir..
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Go to your room you have school tomorrow
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I still think it’s bs that Goku hasn’t mastered SSJ3 when I know he has the power to do so. If Trunks can master SSJ2 then why tf can Goku nor Vegeta do that? they too busy relying more on the godly ki rather then their roots. If they actually took the time to master the other forms like SSJ then SSJ2 and SSJ3 would be strong af that I’m sure it would be good for them to wear down the final boss of the arc then enter their more powerful forms
Like this drives me insane and let’s not forget the fact their old training methods for their base forms don’t even work anymore so now they actually need to find ways to even make themselves base form stronger via ki training
Like this drives me insane and let’s not forget the fact their old training methods for their base forms don’t even work anymore so now they actually need to find ways to even make themselves base form stronger via ki training
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.....Is this supposed to change something?
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Akira Toriyama talking about the afterlife
Toriyama: I thought up the ball-like world so that it’d be easy for both me and the readers to wrap our minds around! The central big ball has the worlds called the living world and afterlife, and the Kaiōshin oversee all that from the outside. As their antithesis, at the bottom of the big ball are the Makaiōshin, who govern evil. Currently, it seems the Kaiōshins’ power is superior.
Toriyama: I thought up the ball-like world so that it’d be easy for both me and the readers to wrap our minds around! The central big ball has the worlds called the living world and afterlife, and the Kaiōshin oversee all that from the outside. As their antithesis, at the bottom of the big ball are the Makaiōshin, who govern evil. Currently, it seems the Kaiōshins’ power is superior.
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No, it's just to add that the Gods are of utmost importance, Did you watch DBS? In the anime, Zen'ō and the Daishinkan seeing the entire Universe in the form of fiction, in addition to demonstrating the Daishinkan by observing the entire Universe 7 in a species of jellyfish
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Lmfao. You're actually serious.
Yes, I watched the anime. No they don't see universes as fiction. Ffs, they're physically the same level if existence as Goku.
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Why exactly do you say that? Same existence physically? Zen'ō lives on a plane above all 12 Universes, I in no way see Zen'ō and Daishinkan having the same existence
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If the gods see the mortal realm as fiction then Supreme Kai did a self insert lmfao
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For me this is exactly what seeing the verse in a form of fiction, where they are in a dimension inaccessible for anyone to be
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I mean, from what I understand Botamo’s justification across the two mediums is different. Manga Botamo is just stretchy and Anime Botamo transfers damage to another dimension and all attacks in that Dimension are nullified. The former probably wouldn’t have invulnerability, just resistance to blunt force, and the latter would have invincibility (via Damage Transference.)
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That.. is literally fcking insane, i wonder how he can be beat without existence erasure.
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