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to be fair, most of DB transformations doesn't making any senseThat doesn't make any ******* sense.
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to be fair, most of DB transformations doesn't making any senseThat doesn't make any ******* sense.
Yeah, that form of Cell reminds me of Cell X from DBH...These look like DBH-tier shit
I'm interested if u have it dm it to me plsHope you guys don’t read MShadows full review. You guys are not ready for the insane retcon that took place.
I would say this probably changes the way we look at the movie verse. It is probably a different continuity from the anime altogether.
Join fanverse, you have to see it there, when it’s out. It’s disrespectful to go against the reviewers wishes.I'm interested if u have it dm it to me pls
Let me guess, is broly not stronger than beerus any more? And I assume whis is the one who made the statement?that’s one of the many. The one is talking about is a power retcon that is supported by one of the most reliables characters in the series.
No. Has to do with the one who came before Broly. Whis is involved, you got that right.Let me guess, is broly not stronger than beerus any more? And I assume whis is the one who made the statement?
?For anyone that wants to know
Thing is, after he says that, Whis supports the statement too, and encourages Goku to try it as well.Vegeta is meditating to mimick Jiren. He says that the gap in power between Goku, Vegeta, and Jiren, was not that big back then, and it was his focus that made every attack 100% efficient and why Jiren was so overwhelming
That’s not barely an inconvenience. That’s extremely inconvenient. he was far stronger than SSBE by far, like 2 power ups of a difference, 3 if he only went all out at the start of episode 130 (prior to awakening).?
And?... That's barely an inconvenience for scaling
Gap between Goku/Vegeta and Jiren in the ToP was "not that big"
That last line is all of power scaling in every franchise, yes.Either what Vegeta said mean they are not using maximum efficiency of their form or thing got ret-con, or SSBE and SSBKKx20 was not that superior to SSB alone and UI boost was not a huge boost either.
Or it is because of us power scaler made those power boost seem big while in reality it is not
Are Blue Kaio-ken and Evolution not appearing your only evidence against this notion?We have 0 proof or confirmation that this movie follows the anime.
No, the Broly movie explicitly continues from the ending of the anime.The same happens with the Broly movie.
Pan not being able to fly till the end of the movie, when in Super she could do that as a baby.Are Blue Kaio-ken and Evolution not appearing your only evidence against this notion?
Nope, it doesn't specify if it follows the Anime or manga.No, the Broly movie explicitly continues from the ending of the anime.
This movie should follow both continuities manga and Anime. Is canon to bothIdk what the hell is happening anymore
Pan can't fly is just another PIS to serve the plot, or simply they forget it again
Gohan could not only overpower Raditz, but he could also obliterate a mountain and fly as a four-year-old. However, those were only spur of the moment happenstances, and he needed proper training in order to fully realize his powers. Likewise, Pan only flew in a spur of the moment happenstances while in a failing spaceship set to crash back into Earth. For Saiyans, Ki Control comes naturally; however, since Pan is only a quarter-Saiyan, much like Gohan, she needs training to freely and willingly use her abilities.Pan not being able to fly till the end of the movie, when in Super she could do that as a baby.
"slightly stronger"?The gap between Vegeta and Goku not being that high, when MUI Goku was slightly stronger than Evo Vegeta in the TOP.
Are you suggesting that Goku and Vegeta not using their evolved Super Saiyan Blue forms is proof that the movie could potentially exist in a continuity where the events of the Tournament of Power did not occur? Because, no, they explicitly did. Jiren and Kefla and Ribrianne were explicitly mentioned as powerful opponents fought during the explicitly mentioned Tournament of Power that the movie explicitly takes place shortly after.And the fact that Goku was in trouble with Broly, to the point of nearly dying but he didn't resort to use SSBK is kinda sus, the same goes for Vegeta.
Nope, it doesn't specify if it follows the Anime or manga.
Toriyama explicitly, blatantly, absolutely, certainly, definitively, precisely, unequivocally states that Broly is a straightforward continuation of the anime — "the next story in the series [airing] on TV". He even considers the move yet another "episode" in the Super Saga.The Dragon Ball Super movie this time will be the next story in the series currently airing on TV. It will be an episode after catching our breath from the climax of the Tournament of Power with the universe’s existence on the line
When Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' were written and produced, there was no Super to connect them to.We should doblike what we did with BOG and ROF, in BOG the thing about Beerus using 70/60% of his power was retconned.
That doesn't suggest anything, that doesn't proof they used they evolved forms.Are you suggesting that Goku and Vegeta not using their evolved Super Saiyan Blue forms is proof that the movie could potentially exist in a continuity where the events of the Tournament of Power did not occur? Because, no, they explicitly did. Jiren and Kefla and Ribrianne were explicitly mentioned as powerful opponents fought during the explicitly mentioned Tournament of Power that the movie explicitly takes place shortly after.
It's just saying that it's the Next DB Super content airing in TV, no that it exactly follows the Anime.Toriyama explicitly, blatantly, absolutely, certainly, definitively, precisely, unequivocally states that Broly is a straightforward continuation of the anime — "the next story in the series [airing] on TV". He even considers the move yet another "episode" in the Super Saga
Yes, but the characters talked about their power in the TOP, not the events after that.slightly stronger"?
The movie takes place three years after the events of Broly, and Goku and Vegeta have had Broly to train with over that three year timeskip. Even disregarding that, Goku and Vegeta were presented as equals as Super Saiyan Blues in the final episode of Super, and they only battle in their base forms in this movie, as per Whis' orders.
Chill, I don't think I'm sounding aggresive or rude right now.Tch. "Pure speculation".
You're ignorant, and that's my fault? Nah
The Super super Hero movie too tho?I feel bad for Null this time, but hey, what Null said is right though, both movies was stated by Toriyama to be direct continuation of the TV Anime
It's just saying that it's the Next DB Super content airing in TV, no that it exactly follows the Anime.
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Arguments from incredulity can sometimes arise from inappropriate emotional involvement, the conflation of fantasy and reality, a lack of understanding, or an instinctive 'gut' reaction, especially where time is scarce. They are also frequently used to argue that something must be supernatural in origin. This form of reasoning is fallacious because one's inability to imagine how a statement can be true or false gives no information about whether the statement is true or false in reality.
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Yes, but the characters talked about their power in the TOP, not the events after that.
Are you feigning ignorance to egg me on?
Nope, they will not doing so, with this two moviesI think the Anime will adapt both Broly and Super Hero similar to BoG and RoF. No way Toei won't milk the same cow twice. Which is why it's pointless to discuss vague statements that might or might not appear in the Anime adaptation..
Also " not that big" still implies that there was a gap. It's similarly vague to how Dyspo was described as a being faster than light throughout the entire ToP or Frieza attacking Top with a "power capable of destroying worlds"