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But "Vegeta has never been one to misread an opponent's strength"?
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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ah, yeah, never
sounds fun music
1. in the saiyan saga:against goku
2. in the namek saga:against Zarbon
3. in the frieza saga:against frieza (and he thought he was the super saiyan)
4. in the android saga:against 18
5. in the cell saga:against cell (and it was his fault that Cell was able to be perfect, but to be honest, EVERYONE except trunks, made mistakes, but Vegeta was the literal only guy who wanted Cell to be perfect to defeat him, and he got defeated anyway, TWICE)
6. in the majin buu saga:against buu
7. in the top of universe 6 vs 7:against Hit
8. in the zamasu saga or future trunks saga:against Black Goku
9. in tournament of power:against Jiren.
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Because he used kaioken up to three and four times, and he couldn't sense ki here either
Via a transformation
Same as zarbon, super Saiyan was a myth at that point,he was basically talking out of his ass because he got stronger
She had no ki to sense, only way to know was by fighting her
This was more arrogance, and while he did misread Perfect cell's strength,that was mostly due to cell suppressing it, everyone was shocked when he actually showed his full power against Gohan
Which one? Fat Buu or kid Buu?
He literally got outhaxed
Manga or anime?
He did?
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Why are you all debating with Alexander
He is trolling, so it's just a waste of time
He is trolling, so it's just a waste of time
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No, i am not
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1. Vegeta told Goku that he is a low class saiyan and that he would never defeat him, because he is high class.
and he knew about his transformation, and thought he could defeat him even with that.
Again, Vegeta thought he could beat Frieza and thought he was the legendary Super Saiyan (he basically self-boosted too much, which is the same result as thinking the enemy is weaker than him).
and he insisted that she wouldn't be a problem for him...yes she was.
Again, the pattern continues to repeat itself, of Vegeta believing he can defeat his enemies and him believing that his enemies are not that strong compared to himself.
i don't know, maybe the one who he called fat?
In this I agree that Vegeta did not underestimate Hit or overestimate himself...he just ended up being defeated
Anime
yes.
By the way, the joke about this is that Vegeta almost always underestimates his enemies, and always believes that he is stronger.
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What's all this commotion about? Daima not being canon? Kid buu not being the strongest buu in anime continuity? Buuhan not scaling to his vice shout? It's 2015 all over again.
Aye bro Alexander, you know we are in 2025 and not 2015 right?
Aye bro Alexander, you know we are in 2025 and not 2015 right?
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i never even mentioned Daima at all.
Time is a circle, where the past repeats itself in the future, even though things change in the future, the patterns will repeat themselves.
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Who even ordered this bunch of yappanise?
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I ordered Copium not a bunch of yappanise
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Damn, he took all that copium and turned it to yappanise. Someone please give him transmutation
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do you think people Who are normally alone, Will handle be able to stay in peace in death?and in eternal solitude?
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This is the DBZ discussion thread not the rant discussion thread
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hey i wanted to get Deep afterwards...sometimes my cycle IS chaotic, but there IS a order
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To the DBS Anime continuity... which means pretty nothing to our profiles as they are all like, 2-C
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Huh, did i lose too much from the thread stopping giving me notifications?
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Buuhan and Kid Buu should kiss each other honestly
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Then draw them
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I don't know why are you asking me this, ask Pluto or Decart or Aristotle
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maybe they accepted a eternal solitude
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Oh this should be good.
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So the movies are literally directly said to be paralell worlds?
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Other then not understanding this
Note 1:
Because the distance between any given number of universes embedded in higher-dimensional / higher-order spaces is currently unknowable, it is impossible to quantify the numerical gap between each one of the sub-tiers in Tier 2. As such, it is not allowed to upgrade such a character based solely on multipliers. For example, someone twice as strong as a Low 2-C character would still be Low 2-C, and someone infinitely more powerful than a 2-C would not be 2-A. This does not mean that the difference between these tiers is greater than infinite, merely that the difference is unknown.
He has fair criticisms with how we scale Dragon Ball, Like saying all the movies are cannons and Buuhans 2-C "feat" that was only affecting the living world and Toei Gotenks' scaling
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Not according to the Daizenshuu or GT Dragon Book. They’re the same guy according to them.
The Anime literally had flashbacks to the actual film. They’re the same guy. Verbatim. This also goes for Icarus, he’s explicitly stated the same one from Tree of Might in a bunch of guides. (Meaning those events transpired, somehow.)
Forgot this statement exists, actually.
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Are you lagging?
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No you are
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Toei's wank is really powerful, for example 3 space-times the size of the Universe that are infinite and spacetime DBS with 2 being the size of the Universe finite ( i no longer know if the Kaioshin realm fits the Universal size by ¼ of the Universe and the afterlife DBS )
How i wanted to make Goku 2-B just with multipliers from each transformation
How i wanted to make Goku 2-B just with multipliers from each transformation
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you know, people sometimes forget how many times the general time IS mentioned even in the afterlife
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For the canon story that the DBZ manga, for the anime it is a direct continuation.
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Could you write in a way that i understand?
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Goku took months to train in the afterlife, months passed in the mortal world, the z fighters took like a year or so to train in the afterlife, same time passed in the mortal world, Goku trained for 7 years in the afterlife, 7 years passed in real time, in the kaioshin planet, the ritual took alot of hours to be completed.
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yeah we know this and it's not something people forget atleast here
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Goku
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Does not take a shower
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Normal, this does not disprove it being a different space-time.
