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There should be 1 more time ring given the new one that Whis created with his timeline, totaling to 7, not the 6 we see.
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Dragon Ball Super Cosmology Discussion
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There should be 1 more time ring given the new one that Whis created with his timeline, totaling to 7, not the 6 we see.
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I agree with 3-A.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Scans that they refer to Infinite Zamasu?
Also again, his ratings has nothing to do with his ki, but rather his sheer size
Beerus was scared of Jiren because no one in U7 was even close to him, so Beerus feared he would be erased by Zeno
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I 100% support that, I'm just sick of this eternal arguing in circle.
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Not yet. I think the opposition should be given a little more time to give any counter arguments before we conclude this.
And we need an official consensus on how to treat the cosmology to actually write down somewhere so we stick to it. A discussion rule to not change the cosmology isn't enough.
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When did Whis created a timeline?
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He and Beerus created one for Trunks and Mai to live in.
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I’m still very upset at the conclusion of the last IZ thread because non of what I brought up was thoroughly debunked it was disregarded to focus on Jiren whom had nothing to do with the thread.
Zamasu’s feat falls under an unquantifiably higher than baseline feat for Low 2-C and arguably much higher than what Beerus and Chanpa were going to do individually that got them a combined 2-C feat
Zamasu’s feat falls under an unquantifiably higher than baseline feat for Low 2-C and arguably much higher than what Beerus and Chanpa were going to do individually that got them a combined 2-C feat
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Wait, how? I heard the 3-A argument but not the low 1-C Zeno argument, THAT'S a new one? I thought Zamasu would be the low 1-C one?
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Different continuites being used to support each other isn't a thing, unless now BoG Goku of both manga and anime are both 3-A because "similar feat"
Proof of them being 7?
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The new one he made for Trunks and Mai.
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Gilad. You do know that Beerus was able to sense IZ’s Ki right? Why are you assuming IZ doesn’t have low 2-C levels of Ki? That’s a baseless assumption based off of, “well he’s a big boi.”
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Already debunked as nothing stated he fused with the space-time, also appearing in other universes is just goddamn range
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Said range was physically travelled and range corresponds to power for omnipresent characters....especially when they are expanding beyond the confines of a dimension.
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At the start they were 5 btw, not 7
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Because nothing states that his ki grew when he transformed into Infinite Zamasu. Otherwise we would see Shin, Goku or Vegeta saying something like "Oh my god, his ki became even stronger than ever before" (Which they did stated for regular Fused Zamasu)
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The description does fit how it works in DB but I'm not a tiering expert so I'm not sure if it make it low 1-C. At least that's new even if I don't have much of an opinion on it.
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Note: We consider the universes in Dragon Ball alternate time-spaces relative to each other, hence why Zen'ō is rated as 2-C, despite the events in the Goku Black Saga showing parallel timelines encompassing the whole of the multiverse.
The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.
The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.
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That’s dumb. Do you seriously need a statement that someone’s power grew when it’s shown right in front of you? Ever heard of feats > statements? Also why would size be separate from Ki?
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"Different continuites being used to support each other isn't a thing, unless now BoG Goku of both manga and anime are both 3-A because "similar feat""
As I said, it can be used to elaborate something which was already shown to be the same for the anime. The BoG Goku feat are depicted somewhat differently across the two, while this one aren't shown to be different at all. Quite the same, in fact.
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Thanks. Well in that case, refer back to my original argument for that.
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As I said, it can be used to elaborate something which was already shown to be the same for the anime. The BoG Goku feat are depicted somewhat differently across the two, while this one aren't shown to be different at all. Quite the same, in fact.
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Thanks. Well in that case, refer back to my original argument for that.
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5 at the start +1 for the timeline where Zamasu take Goku's body + the new one made by Whis = 7.
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1. Fair point about the feats > statements
2. Because size has nothing to do with ki? Size literally never mattered in Dragon Ball, so why would it be any different here?
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@Dragomer does have a point about the Time Rings imo. At the start of the Future Trunk arc there were only 5 Time Rings and at the end there were only 6 despite Beerus creating one Time Ring after Hakai'ing Zamasu and Whis creating another Time Ring with the new timeline Trunks and Mai went to live in.
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Nothing stated so tho
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Because the new ones weren't created yet, it's at the start before the one where Zamasu take over Goku's body and the one Whis made were created. Episode 54 to be precise.
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So making exceptions because why not now?
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Present is just the Z Timeline in context, don't act like they're the same timeline
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The whole vers's is 2-B IIRC but no one scale to that except possibly Zeno but it was judged that it would be a stretch to assume he can destroy that instead of just the timeline until we see otherwise.
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No what you’re doing is making shit up. IZ isn’t just bigger, he’s higher dimensional. And you’re the one assuming that his levels of Ki are infinitely inferior to his physical strength. Do you know how outrageous of an assumption that is?
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Especialy since by nature, getting better physicals also boost your ki. That's why even ******* Mr Satan has a higher PL than default despite not doing shit with Ki.
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