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Dragon Ball Super Broly SPOILERS!
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Yes, it was Belmod.
It was never stated to be Belmond it was stated the Beerus lost to Quitella in arm wrestling in the manga and the Movie follows the manga timeline. Seeing as how ssjg Vegeta is present and ssjbkk is not present.
Whats more is that Goku's statements is only valid for BoG Beerus as that is the version of Beerus who he thinks is at full power. He has no idea how much Beerus holds back and there is a reason the Beerus felt this crysis not worth his attention.
It was never stated to be Belmond it was stated the Beerus lost to Quitella in arm wrestling in the manga and the Movie follows the manga timeline. Seeing as how ssjg Vegeta is present and ssjbkk is not present.
Whats more is that Goku's statements is only valid for BoG Beerus as that is the version of Beerus who he thinks is at full power. He has no idea how much Beerus holds back and there is a reason the Beerus felt this crysis not worth his attention.
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Dragon Ball Super: Broly, the movie that retcons everything. ÕvÕ
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Uh...did you quote the wrong person? I didn't mention BoG Beerus...I was pretty clearly implying that Goku's statement would either be based on him believing that Beerus is still stronger than him (even with UI) and was unaware that Jiren was the mortal that a GoD couldn't defeat OR Goku knows full well that he surpassed Beerus and is comparing Broly as being weaker than UI and Jiren.
So either Broly > Jiren or Jiren =/> Broly based on how strong Goku thinks Beerus is.
So either Broly > Jiren or Jiren =/> Broly based on how strong Goku thinks Beerus is.
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Uhmm...
Goku is that powerful because he forced Jiren to use more power than he did against First UIO [whose stronger than Infintie Zamasu whose feat is Low 2-C] . He's much, much stronger than it after ToP due to constant UI usage boosting his power tremendously + numerous zenkais .
Goku is that powerful because he forced Jiren to use more power than he did against First UIO [whose stronger than Infintie Zamasu whose feat is Low 2-C] . He's much, much stronger than it after ToP due to constant UI usage boosting his power tremendously + numerous zenkais .
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So basically Gogeta>>>Broly=Beerus>Goku and Jiren>
And this confirms that fusion dance is superior to potara earrings
And this confirms that fusion dance is superior to potara earrings
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At best i see the Dance being equal with the Earrings, if you mean the Dance being superior due to DBS Gogeta being stronger then DBS Vegito, then that doesn't count since a much weaker Goku and Vegeta performed the Potara fusion, if Vegito was made during the movie, he should be at least as strong as GogetaGreatone22 said:
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@DBZMLP
SSB Vegito was on par with Fusion Zamasu who's weaker than Beerus. SSB Gogeta curbstomped Broly who's at least as strong as Beerus. This basically confirms that the fusion dance in terms of pure power is superior to the potara earrings. The potara fusion is only considered to be better because it lasts longer, but in terms of actual power, fusion dance is better.
SSB Vegito was on par with Fusion Zamasu who's weaker than Beerus. SSB Gogeta curbstomped Broly who's at least as strong as Beerus. This basically confirms that the fusion dance in terms of pure power is superior to the potara earrings. The potara fusion is only considered to be better because it lasts longer, but in terms of actual power, fusion dance is better.
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FT arc potaro fusion between Goku and Vegeta is weaker than a current fusion dance between Goku and Vegeta, well obviously it is =/
Since Goku and Vegeta are much much stronger than back when they did the potaro fusion back in the FT arc.
What you said doesn't prove fusion dance is stronger than potara.
Since Goku and Vegeta are much much stronger than back when they did the potaro fusion back in the FT arc.
What you said doesn't prove fusion dance is stronger than potara.
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So if post tournament vegeta and goku did the potara fusion, would they still be able to curbstomp broly like gogeta did?
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Yes, Vegito would likely stomp Broly like Gogeta didGreatone22 said:
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In theory yeah. Vegito should do the same.
Remember tho, this movie was writin by toriyama and the zamasu vs Vegito fight was written by toei, obviously toei doesn't understand how broken the fusion is and they like to make close fights just for the sake of tension.
Like how they luffy struggle a lot with Doffy in the final clash when luffy actually one shouted him in the manga.
Remember tho, this movie was writin by toriyama and the zamasu vs Vegito fight was written by toei, obviously toei doesn't understand how broken the fusion is and they like to make close fights just for the sake of tension.
Like how they luffy struggle a lot with Doffy in the final clash when luffy actually one shouted him in the manga.
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They would probably defuse trying to do anything relevant.
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SSB vegito only lasted for like 5 minutes, while Gogeta lasted for the full 30 minutes despite also using SSB, wtf?
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Honestly, I kind of hope it confirms Dance > Potara. I have had so many Vegito fanboys try to trash Gogeta and treat him like some massively inferior fodder that would be curbstomped if he ever fought Vegito. When you think about it logically, the Dance is harder to pull off but requires no specialised artifacts and, as a technique, should be capable of improvement and growth.
The fact that Potara is now a one hour limit and that Dance seems to be more stable than Potara (based on what we have heard about Gogeta never defusing and lasting longer than Vegito) would imply that while Potara is overpowered for Kais, it is awful for mortals and the Dance, as a mortal technique, is overall the superior choice.
Potara - Permanent, extremely easy to do, no stability issues (For the Kais), no way to improve (outside of some long-term magical and perhaps material improvement), highly unstable for mortals
Dance - Temporary, harder to do, no stability issues (for mortals), could be improved (is a technique, was developed and thus can be developed further), stable for mortals
I'm hoping they take this into consideration for future arcs...if Potara works for gods and the Dance technique can evolve it would be the perfect excuse for more powerful antagonists and for more powerful protagonist fusions...just imagine something like an antagonist as powerful as Whis merging with multiple versions of himself across timelines using some multi-fusion Potara which results in Goku and Vegeta having to evolve their synchronicity (as Whis has taught them) which evolves the Dance fusion and thus makes Gogeta capable of using stronger forms, techniques, etc. While it shouldn't be a crutch it could make for a great addition to the franchise's lore and possibilities.
The fact that Potara is now a one hour limit and that Dance seems to be more stable than Potara (based on what we have heard about Gogeta never defusing and lasting longer than Vegito) would imply that while Potara is overpowered for Kais, it is awful for mortals and the Dance, as a mortal technique, is overall the superior choice.
Potara - Permanent, extremely easy to do, no stability issues (For the Kais), no way to improve (outside of some long-term magical and perhaps material improvement), highly unstable for mortals
Dance - Temporary, harder to do, no stability issues (for mortals), could be improved (is a technique, was developed and thus can be developed further), stable for mortals
I'm hoping they take this into consideration for future arcs...if Potara works for gods and the Dance technique can evolve it would be the perfect excuse for more powerful antagonists and for more powerful protagonist fusions...just imagine something like an antagonist as powerful as Whis merging with multiple versions of himself across timelines using some multi-fusion Potara which results in Goku and Vegeta having to evolve their synchronicity (as Whis has taught them) which evolves the Dance fusion and thus makes Gogeta capable of using stronger forms, techniques, etc. While it shouldn't be a crutch it could make for a great addition to the franchise's lore and possibilities.
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I like this theory. Gogeta is stronger than Vegito in actual power, but Vegito has the time limit advantage, since he lasts longer.
Or maybe the Potara fusion is only good when godly entities use it, and it sucks when mortals use it.
Or maybe the Potara fusion is only good when godly entities use it, and it sucks when mortals use it.
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Gogeta and Vegito are dead equals. Provided that the fusees are equally strong.
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SSB Gogeta is the strongest non angel non zeno character in the entire canon dragon ball verse.
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gota say tho. The gap bewtween baseand Ssgss should be literally at least a million times. Base gogeta is a ******* monster if he is indeed a million times goku and vegeta. I dont see beerus touching a monster like that, and also a monster like broly despite being dominated by gogeta.
Btw, i kind of dont like that this is like the only vs website that has vegito blue on such low levels. I get it, he seems to struggle with zamasu. But no matter where else we get info, Vegito has been stated to be at beerus level (manga, toyotaro, dbx2 scan, and even toeis website had vegito at one point srating that he was "overwhelmig" fuzed zamasu) Or to be far superior to zamasu. But oh well, hopefully something comes from toriyamas mouth that would be expliciit enpugh to bumb vegito to hakaishin level where he should be.
Btw, i kind of dont like that this is like the only vs website that has vegito blue on such low levels. I get it, he seems to struggle with zamasu. But no matter where else we get info, Vegito has been stated to be at beerus level (manga, toyotaro, dbx2 scan, and even toeis website had vegito at one point srating that he was "overwhelmig" fuzed zamasu) Or to be far superior to zamasu. But oh well, hopefully something comes from toriyamas mouth that would be expliciit enpugh to bumb vegito to hakaishin level where he should be.
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Toriyama kind of shit on Vegito now after Toei ruined him in FT arc, i mean Gogeta lasts the whole 30 minutes while also in SSB through a majority of it
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I don't take DBH that serious, they also had Cumber overpower KK Blue Vegito yet loose to SS4 Vegito.
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