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I personally agree.
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Dragon Ball Super Anime: Fused Zamasu Low 2-C Upgrade (I Actually Know What I'm Talking About I Swear)
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His Base at End-of-ToP should at least be comparable to some extent, especially since it's not different from Goku's SSJ Forms being Low 2-C FRA
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This would require a bit of reshuffling for the keys, because Goku and Vegeta only have a single key for the “Future“ Trunks Arc (and it’s fused with the Universe Survival Arc for some reason).
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Should each trip to the future be it's own key? Or should we fuse the 1st and 2nd trips into one key, and leave the 3rd trip as it's own key?
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Couldn't we just put the first two trips to the future with the Universe 6 key and then make this key the final trip + pre-UI ToP
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ToP Frieza would be Low 2-C anyway going by this scaling we're making so...
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Yeah with this revision, quite a couple of characters are gonna get Low 2-C, and some will get it even earlier.
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Didn’t they train in between the end of the Future Trunks Arc and the beginning of the ToP though? I feel like those keys should be separated, especially if we scale the Saiyans’ normal SSJ forms to Low 2-C as well.
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We could also note in the AP section that they increased their strength, no? Or would that get too bloated?
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Im missing something here but why should either Goku or Vegeta on their own get back scaling from Infinite Zamasu?
All of their feats were against Merged Zamasu BEFORE he explicitly powered up by striking himself with lightning, and both saiyans immediately relied on fusion after seeing him power up.
All of their feats were against Merged Zamasu BEFORE he explicitly powered up by striking himself with lightning, and both saiyans immediately relied on fusion after seeing him power up.
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I'm with Lephyr. Couldn't we just note that they became even stronger leading up to the ToP? I don't wanna have too many keys
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Infinite Zamasu has inferior feats against the Saiyans to even Fused Zamasu before his Light of Justice power-up
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I don’t really mind leaving them in one key unless we upgrade the normal SSJ forms to Low 2-C, then I think we should separate them.
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Does Base Beginning of ToP Goku get Low 2-C?
Also, Magetta should get a 2nd ToP key since his U6 self was only SSJ Vegeta level.
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The fusion was to guarantee victory, as their chances were decreasing. That doesn't mean they can't downscale. It's just that their combined strength without fusion was simply not enough (they were getting tired too iirc).
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SSJ Goku is 50x Base Goku so I'd assume so (it's like the Super Hero Gohan incident basically)
Also, agree with you on Magetta
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I honestly don't mind fusing 3rd Trip with the early ToP stuff.
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Cause like, outside of making the Non god forms Low 2-C, there's no other scaling changes right?
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Yep
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So the idea is that IZ is a vastly depowered form of Zamasu to begin with?
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IZ is just the disembodied will of FZ, so there's no reason to assume it's stronger. In fact, going by IZ's feats against the Saiyans, it's pretty easy to say IZ is weaker
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The same character without a body anymore.
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Basically a ghost if you think about it.
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Also with some promotions happening and some more people giving their opinions on this thread, I'm gonna go back to the OP and update the tally
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So everything Pre 3rd Trip stays 3-A and Post 3rd Trip becomes Low 2-C.
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For FZ's key, should we note down his Gigantification as something beyond Light of Justice? And also, since the games call this state Corrupted Zamasu, should we also call it that?
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I mean, they at least explained it with him doing mental training.
He already had the monstrous power of Golden Frieza down, but his 2nd time in Hell let him master stamina and technique.
This supports Low 2-C Base Goku since he and Frieza were portrayed as relative equals when they punched each other.
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Idk about all that, Frieza was literally fighting a dude comparable to SSG Goku.
Base ToP Goku is Low 2-C yes, but not for this reason
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Low 2-C, higher with Light of Justice, even higher with Gigantification
This could work, though there would need to be a lower rating for his speed with Gigantification
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Fair point.
Also, would SSJ Caulifla scale for matching SSJ Goku?
Sadly, best boi Cabba does not scale, although IIRC he may have blocked Toppo's punch.
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He took a punch from Toppo, although he is weaker. Also, I wouldn't say SSJ Cabba is that much weaker than SSJ Caulifla, in addition to the fact that Cabba says she "might" be able to beat his SSJ form with her own
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Idrc either way though I kinda prefer Gigantification due to that literally just being what it isThat's hot
What about Corrupted Zamasu for Gigantification.
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Guess they're getting the Low 2-C bump then.
Kale's Legendary SSJ Form obviously gets it for curbstomping SSJ Cabba, but as @CiscoTheSoto said in his own CRT, she should not be scaling to a SSJB Goku since he was not being serious.
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Cabba and Caulifla should scale, yeah. Although Cabba would need a new key for the ToP.
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I mean that's a given, it was shown when he saw Vegeta again that he trained a lot for the ToP.
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And hopefully it notes down the difference between his base and super Saiyan forms.
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