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1) Kaioken multipliers are used (so Kaioken is 2 times, KK4 is 4 times etc.), and SSJ being a 50 times multiplier (and by an extention, SSGSS being 2500 multiplier as SSGSS = SSG * SSJ)1- what is the multipliers used for SS transformations? all i know BoG base goku is ~220x baseline 3A
2- what tier is the accepted cosmology? like the whole of it
SSGSS = SSB? right?1) Kaioken multipliers are used (so Kaioken is 2 times, KK4 is 4 times etc.), and SSJ being a 50 times multiplier (and by an extention, SSGSS being 2500 multiplier as SSGSS = SSG * SSJ)
aren't they in a single megatimeline? and there are more2) 2-C. 12 Universes
yes that's why i asked, because the eternity of dragon ball is more than just 12 universesYes, they are in a single mega timeline, and there are countless timelines I think? Making the canon cosmology 2-B [correct me if I'm wrong]
Well technically it was 18 space times contained in a timeline, but zeno got angry and destroyed 6, leaving out 12 space timesyes that's why i asked, because the eternity of dragon ball is more than just 12 universes
I'm pretty sure we accept a 2-B cosmology because there are an uncountable amount of timelines that exist, but nobody in canon scales to those.2- what tier is the accepted cosmology? like the whole of it
he can't destroy all of it obviouslyHe can destroy/Erase all of existence, thus he can destroy 18 universes and the full timeline [Tho it's unknown o
If all of existence refers to all timelines]
Why not?he can't destroy all of it obviously
the other zeno stuff and how he didn't know about the existence of other versions of himselfWhy not?
Why would having multiple zeno's discards that he can't destroy everything? And why not knowing other versions of himself have anything to do with him busting the multiverse or not?the other zeno stuff and how he didn't know about the existence of other versions of himself
YesSSGSS = SSB? right?
Oh god not another one. That'd only work if you have either extra proof that we're working with 2 full-fledged (continuous) temporal dimensions here or potentially if the megatimelines are infinite in all 4 directions.If zeno is able to destroy the countless mega timelines in the time rings then maybe he should be low 1-C.
I don't understand. If 4D spacetimes are inside an even bigger structure and they're surrounded by the 5th dimension and that whole thing is a time ring, then that should be low 1-C straight up.Oh god not another one. That'd only work if you have either extra proof that we're working with 2 full-fledged (continuous) temporal dimensions here or potentially if the megatimelines are infinite in all 4 directions.
Huh, I though that the space outside a 4D structure is 5D? Why is it not 5D then?Prove the space-times are contained in a 5D space rather than a bigger 4D space. Don't use the quote on the speed page it only talks about 1 axis of the 5th dimension.
The better question would be why would it be?Why is it not 5D then?
I though the sturcture that contains a 4D structure is supposed to be 5D?The better question would be why would it be?
Ok then how would a hyper timeline be treated in terms of AP? low multiverse level like before or how much higher?How so? A structure that contains at least 2 apartments is called a city block. It's still a 3D structure isn't it?
But I get your confusion since it comes from the 5D axis thing and how time is treated as the 4th dimension. Where you could probably exploit that and say the space between universes is 5D.
It's that time ring which is a structure which contains 12 timelines, would it just be above baseline 12 universes?Define hypertimeline first. If it's just the 12 universes then yeah that'd be 2-C.
uncountable? How so may I ask? . There are only 5( ?) time ringsI'm pretty sure we accept a 2-B cosmology because there are an uncountable amount of timelines
No gowasu had tons.uncountable? How so may I ask? . There are only 5( ?) time rings
your end of the sentence should be in reverse.It's hard to prove that timelines containing space times are just larger space times and not a 5D structures.
Under VSBW's definition, yes (if the timeline is now undestroyed). Either that or a blatant contradiction.But when a timeline gets destroyed, and you somehow time travel to it, wouldn't it mean that there Is a second temporal dimension?
Well well, in db it doesn't seem like contradiction as goku was able to time travel to a destroyed timeline, and whis stated thatcge is able to somehow travel back to the point before the timeline got destroyed , would it be enough to have a second temporal dimension? [THERE is also a time vault feat that I don't remember Too well but it has the same premise]your end of the sentence should be in reverse.
Under VSBW's definition, yes (if the timeline is now undestroyed). Either that or a blatant contradiction.