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Dr. Eggman vs Frieza

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Made this out of curiosity

Adventure Eggman with 4-C inventions and the Egg Fleet vs First Form Resurrection F Frieza

Eggman has access to the Egg Fleet, Base Metal Sonic, Mecha Sonic Mk. II and has prior knowledge of Frieza's Attack Potency, but no preparation time

Both are High 4-C

Starting distance is 100 meters and speed is equalized

Who wins?

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It depends on how it starts, Frieza will probably see Eggman as a monkey or just an egg, and try to kill him with no worries with a laser beam from his finger.

But I really don't know how Eggman will start, he may win with phantom ruby with reality warping or things (but that doesn't seem like much in his character) well, like I said, it depends on how Eggman starts
 
Spilxson2 said:
Wait really? I thought it'd be a hax stomp for Eggman
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It would be, if the phantom ruby was a move in his character, Well, if he uses phantom Ruby, BRF FTW (funnily enough, it was the same way he won his archie comics counterpart against frieza)
 
Honestly, I'm almost giving up, I'll finish a subject here and I'll ask in the general threads (which to be honest should have been the first thing I should have done)
 
Lenyo456 said:
Eggman strongest inventions scale to 2,165.67018872 Quettatons of TNT
Freeza scale to...looking for

Yeah, I'm looking for the 4-C freeza calculation BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE SINCE NOBODY FIXED ANYTHING
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Yeah I have no idea why there are almost no calculations for DBZ. All I know is that Mecha Frieza should be much much stronger than Final Form Frieza who's 4-C. Maybe I'll even make it first form Resurrection F Frieza since Eggman can probably use his hax to play around the Attack Potency Gap
 
Spilxson2 said:
Yeah I have no idea why there are almost no calculations for DBZ. All I know is that Mecha Frieza should be much much stronger than Final Form Frieza who's 4-C.
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No more feat is used to calculation, as everything is based on multipliers
 
Assuming that Frieza's multipliers make him have the potential to just one shot Eggman, this could be considered a fair match
 
OK I DID IT!!!!!

Eggman scale 276 quettatons

Freeza scale to 244 quettatons

Eggman has an AP advantage of 1.13 times
 
Lenyo456 said:
OK I DID IT!!!!!

Eggman scale 276 quettatons

Freeza scale to 244 quettatons

Eggman has an AP advantage of 1.13 times
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Well Eggman's just an ordinary guy so Frieza can probably still just one shot him. I think it'll come down to his inventions protecting him from just being killed by a finger blast.

If this is fair I might have to go request for it to be moved to the actual vs thread area
 
By the way, I changed it from Classic Eggman with 4-C Inventions to Adventure Eggman with 4-C inventions, so I don't know if that quantity is only for Classic Eggman
 
Well, it's not enough for a one-shot, but it's a difference. if Frieza doesn't have a good enough hax to get around this situation, the victory goes to the egghead
 
Spilxson2 said:
By the way, I changed it from Classic Eggman with 4-C Inventions to Adventure Eggman with 4-C inventions, so I don't know if that quantity is only for Classic Eggman
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I had already seen it, this is the calculation for Adventure Eggman anyway
 
Lenyo456 said:
Well, it's not enough for a one-shot, but it's a difference. if Frieza doesn't have a good enough hax to get around this situation, the victory goes to the egghead
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Well if he has no win conditions at all then it's probably a stomp. Although I can see him potentially beating Eggman just because of how low his physical Durability is. Maybe even making it the High 4-C Resurrection F Frieza wouldn't be too unfair
 
Pretty based match-up. Cool thing about Eggman is as long as Freeza is beneath Multi-Solar level, you can use a different key of Freeza and just give Eggman prep time. With prep, he can easily produce technology on par with his opponent. Of course you'd need to limit prep time so he doesn't create an army and hax traps to insta-kill or insta-incap Freeza.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Pretty based match-up. Cool thing about Eggman is as long as Freeza is beneath Multi-Solar level, you can use a different key of Freeza and just give Eggman prep time. With prep, he can easily produce technology on par with his opponent. Of course you'd need to limit prep time so he doesn't create an army and hax traps to insta-kill or insta-incap Freeza.
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How much prep time should I give him then? I wanted to make it Adventure Eggman vs Gold Frieza to fit the memes but wasn't sure if that'd be too unfair
 
Spilxson2 said:
How much prep time should I give him then? I wanted to make it Adventure Eggman vs Gold Frieza to fit the memes but wasn't sure if that'd be too unfair
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Uhmmm, if you're just gonna use Base Freeza (His high 4-C key IIRC), just specify that he only has enough prep time to make his standard equipment on Freeza's level.

If you wanna do Golden Freeza, you'd need to specify his Tier 2 inventions. And either give him prep, or give him access to some of his inventions that wouldn't make the match-up unfair.

I would say it's worth noting which inventions Eggman has access to since he gets a lot of hax through them.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Pretty based match-up. Cool thing about Eggman is as long as Freeza is beneath Multi-Solar level, you can use a different key of Freeza and just give Eggman prep time. With prep, he can easily produce technology on par with his opponent. Of course you'd need to limit prep time so he doesn't create an army and hax traps to insta-kill or insta-incap Freeza.
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Saw this comment in another thread. Not sure if it'd be fair even with Low 2-C inventions
 
Spilxson2 said:
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Saw this comment in another thread. Not sure if it'd be fair even with Low 2-C inventions
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Mmm, I think that's outdated. Doesn't Dragon Ball Super now scale above half 2-C now? That said, I can't remember if Eggman even has a Tier 2-C invention or not. So it might just be better to stick to their Tier 4 keys. Just tweak it to be most balanced I guess. Eggman's super flexible as a character due to being a super-genius.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Mmm, I think that's outdated. Doesn't Dragon Ball Super now scale above half 2-C now? That said, I can't remember if Eggman even has a Tier 2-C invention or not. So it might just be better to stick to their Tier 4 keys. Just tweak it to be most balanced I guess. Eggman's super flexible as a character due to being a super-genius.
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I might make it Final Form Resurrection F Frieza vs Adventure Eggman with the Egg Fleet and all other 4-C inventions
 
Spilxson2 said:
I might make it Final Form Resurrection F Frieza vs Adventure Eggman with the Egg Fleet and all other 4-C inventions
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That way it'll probably fair since Frieza has a huge chance to beat Eggman with his Attack Potency and Eggman can still win with his hax
 
Spilxson2 said:
That way it'll probably fair since Frieza has a huge chance to beat Eggman with his Attack Potency and Eggman can still win with his hax
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I assume you mean without prep, right? If so, yeah, Freeza would have the advantage. If not, Eggman would close the advantage (Not sure what the AP gap is between RoF Final Form Freeza is compared to Eggman's 4-C key).
 
Kind of all set on making it Final Form Resurrection F Frieza, but I'm not too sure about giving Eggman Neo Metal Sonic. Neo Metal's also High 4-C, but I don't know if his Attack Potency is even higher than Frieza's
 
Absolutely based Lythero snd PaperBoxHouse references. That being said what exactly is stopping Frieza from just telekinetically killing Eggman or causing a Ki explosion within his body the way he and Vegeta both killed people in the Namek Saga?
 
LaserPrecision said:
I assume you mean without prep, right? If so, yeah, Freeza would have the advantage. If not, Eggman would close the advantage (Not sure what the AP gap is between RoF Final Form Freeza is compared to Eggman's 4-C key).
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This is for Mecha Frieza

In DB there aren't a lot of calculations so let's just assume that Final Form Resurrection F Frieza massively upscales from High 4-C
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Absolutely based Lythero snd PaperBoxHouse references. That being said what exactly is stopping Frieza from just telekinetically killing Eggman or causing a Ki explosion within his body the way he and Vegeta both killed people in the Namek Saga?
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The current key for Frieza is Mecha Frieza and I don't see what's stopping Eggman from hacking him. I'm going to make it Final Form Resurrection F Frieza vs Adventure Eggman with the Egg Fleet. Then they both have High 4-C attacks but Eggman should probably still have a noticeably lower Attack Potency than Frieza and also has his hax like Disease Manipulation
 
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