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Doom Eternal Revision Thread Part 4
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thank my man
also im pretty sure next dlc is gona change everything as is since hugo did say they are working on the best boss they ever made(devoth for sure)
also im pretty sure next dlc is gona change everything as is since hugo did say they are working on the best boss they ever made(devoth for sure)
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you got a steam account?
i can gift it to ya on new year
i can gift it to ya on new year
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eh its in the christmas spirit to do it.
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King didn’t respond because he had no rebuttal to what mic said. So he lost. 7-C is the only logical conclusion, he should be a lot higher but you know but I get it you gotta work down sometimes. Anything lower is just straight nonsense.
Everything you have said has already been proven wrong countless times. You don’t need a crucible to kill all titans. End of story.
Everything you have said has already been proven wrong countless times. You don’t need a crucible to kill all titans. End of story.
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You know what. **** it let’s run the 9-A possibly 7-C. I was mostly doing this so I could get a feel for your stance on DOOM and it’s scaling. Because I feel like you’ll pull the same shit when he becomes 2-A in march. Oh buddy you better believe I will fight that WAY harder than this. Eee sure let’s put the Doomboy up against some Baki and Halo characters.
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Let’s WRAP IT UP @Firestorm808
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ok **** it lets bite
1. the sentianls scale to ansestrals which are titans(even though it is stated that they are weaker then the base low 7-C titans ) because they killed them right? well that means that most of the verse is now low 7-C since the high ranking sentianls died to the swarms of hell since we qutie clearly see in the codex ilustraiton that the atlans where fighting the titans while the sentinals that were on foot where fighting barons and the like.(and just so we make it clear never has there been an actual distincation of high or low ranking sentianls being so ludicrusly different in power to make one 9-A and the other low 7-C but im just gona go with it "But they were fatigued from fighting so many demons" i hear you say, well what stops us form useing that exact same argument on the ansestrals vs sentials what stoped the sentianls form fatiguing the ansestrals with maintained presure? the titans don't have limitless stamina since we can quite clearly see a completely beaten down and worn out titan right at the entrence to nekkrovalt. This would also explain why the sentinals couldn't beat a single dreadnaught titan even though
2. "hugo said that the slayer fought titans with his bare hands" he also said not two seconds latter that he also used his weapons which complicated matter ever more.
3. the fight with the champion titan, 2 problems:
1: we never actually see how the fight went down for all we know the slayer actually used his size to his advantage and managed to get inside the champs skull and rip his brain to shreds since he is small enough to fit in there,
2: the testement says that he had a sword at the time which means he had weapons(potentially) energy weapons we don't know since we never get a proper eleboration on that fight.
4. the argent tower explosion being 7-C heres an issue with it.... the explosion open a portal right as it went off pulling doom guy into hell which makes it possible that he only took on a fraction of the blast as the magority might have been pulled into hell as the portal open or that it wasn't pull into hell at all. This would also make sense since a few missions prior samuel said that the doomslayer would die if the argent factory(size wise very comperable to the argent tower) would kill both him and the doomslayer and considering that samuel is the saraphim i dougt he didn't know what the slayer was capable of.
1. the sentianls scale to ansestrals which are titans(even though it is stated that they are weaker then the base low 7-C titans ) because they killed them right? well that means that most of the verse is now low 7-C since the high ranking sentianls died to the swarms of hell since we qutie clearly see in the codex ilustraiton that the atlans where fighting the titans while the sentinals that were on foot where fighting barons and the like.(and just so we make it clear never has there been an actual distincation of high or low ranking sentianls being so ludicrusly different in power to make one 9-A and the other low 7-C but im just gona go with it "But they were fatigued from fighting so many demons" i hear you say, well what stops us form useing that exact same argument on the ansestrals vs sentials what stoped the sentianls form fatiguing the ansestrals with maintained presure? the titans don't have limitless stamina since we can quite clearly see a completely beaten down and worn out titan right at the entrence to nekkrovalt. This would also explain why the sentinals couldn't beat a single dreadnaught titan even though
2. "hugo said that the slayer fought titans with his bare hands" he also said not two seconds latter that he also used his weapons which complicated matter ever more.
3. the fight with the champion titan, 2 problems:
1: we never actually see how the fight went down for all we know the slayer actually used his size to his advantage and managed to get inside the champs skull and rip his brain to shreds since he is small enough to fit in there,
2: the testement says that he had a sword at the time which means he had weapons(potentially) energy weapons we don't know since we never get a proper eleboration on that fight.
4. the argent tower explosion being 7-C heres an issue with it.... the explosion open a portal right as it went off pulling doom guy into hell which makes it possible that he only took on a fraction of the blast as the magority might have been pulled into hell as the portal open or that it wasn't pull into hell at all. This would also make sense since a few missions prior samuel said that the doomslayer would die if the argent factory(size wise very comperable to the argent tower) would kill both him and the doomslayer and considering that samuel is the saraphim i dougt he didn't know what the slayer was capable of.
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eh he is at least gona be 2-B in march likely 2-A
since we don't know how much davoth scales to the father yet and we do know that the father beat him quite handely
but we still have davoth being hell(a 2-B realm) imbodied so yeah
Multiversial DOOMSLAYER WOOP WOOP
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but yeah lets wrap it up at least 9-A likely 7-C doomslayer is a win win for every body anyway
since now he can fight twice as many characters without it being an absolute stomp
since now he can fight twice as many characters without it being an absolute stomp
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its all good
but honestly this whole debate is gona be irrelavent in a few months so who care?
@KieranH10
hmm we need to put accuasality on the slayer and implement the new rating other then that nothing much
but honestly this whole debate is gona be irrelavent in a few months so who care?
@KieranH10
hmm we need to put accuasality on the slayer and implement the new rating other then that nothing much
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Don’t know I think we should include resistance to precognition with his acausality
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also i really hope they don't make the slayer just as powerful as davoth off the get go since that is going to complecate things way too much( with a good number of people scaling to the slayer in the base game it would be a nightmare to make it all work without breaking the lore in half), I really hope they use that plot point about davoth consuming other primordials and give the slayer the ability to do just that and power up enough to smack davoth in the teeth
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Yeah they saw that they were getting destroyed but they just had no idea who was going to do it.
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well yeah but hey didn't know how or why he will destroy them
its like knowing im gona die on a set date but not knowing why
its like knowing im gona die on a set date but not knowing why
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What was the Argent Tower calc again? I forget due to having so much on hand.
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I realize that, I mean the calculation blog if someone can link it again for easy access.
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Looks good then.
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This has been the most painful discussion I’ve witnessed.
thank god for its conclusion.
How about the crucible hax? Does it really neg immortality type 4 or is it a form of sealing/sleep manip
thank god for its conclusion.
How about the crucible hax? Does it really neg immortality type 4 or is it a form of sealing/sleep manip
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Sleep manip kind of makes sense.They just get paralyzed and put in a stasis for god knows how long until they just wake up.
Also are we going scale the crucible to the Doomslayer’s 9-A physicals when it could pierce titan flesh?
Also are we going scale the crucible to the Doomslayer’s 9-A physicals when it could pierce titan flesh?
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no the crucible is low 7-C to 7-C(maybe 2-B to 2-A since davoth used a crucible ageinst the father but thats just speculation) since it can rip apart a titan
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I asked the staff about that. They said sacrificing potency for more AOE needs to be specified not the other way around. Doomguy would scale to it. The entire 2-B dimension of hell isn’t soul haxing one person at a time. When the hell wave first breached in doom 2016 it instantly soul hax /corrupted a large portion of the humans their.
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It’s in this thread I started. They are mostly talking about changing the standard all together but they agree that it fits into the current standard https://vsbattles.com/threads/soul-...those-said-abilities-work.82662/#post-3413893
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Which staff?
Hell does not inflict endless soul manip on every single individual that enters it, it cant, because if it did, it'd be a paradox. It cant inflict it's full span of Soul Manip (I.E. Countless dimensions) on everyone throughout countless dimensions, it has the potency to affect every individual throughout countless dimensions. One soul each, otherwise it'd be saying "Hell can inflict it's entire full possible power that it gained from affecting countless souls over billions of years, on every single new soul it finds throughout all dimensions"
If it were actively focussing it's efforts on the Slayer i'd have no problem with it, but Hell doesn't work like that, if you enter it, it starts to corrupt your soul.
Hell does not inflict endless soul manip on every single individual that enters it, it cant, because if it did, it'd be a paradox. It cant inflict it's full span of Soul Manip (I.E. Countless dimensions) on everyone throughout countless dimensions, it has the potency to affect every individual throughout countless dimensions. One soul each, otherwise it'd be saying "Hell can inflict it's entire full possible power that it gained from affecting countless souls over billions of years, on every single new soul it finds throughout all dimensions"
If it were actively focussing it's efforts on the Slayer i'd have no problem with it, but Hell doesn't work like that, if you enter it, it starts to corrupt your soul.
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sure let’s wank Slayer to 2-A
I sincerely hope your behaviour in this reply and thread aren’t indicative of your best thread
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