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Doctor Who Discussion Thread

Abscoolguy said:
Lol I just wondered if sarah Jane smith will get a page considering her spin off. Does she even have any notable feats? Maybe good intelligence idk. It would be funny to see.
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Honestly I think alongside the Brigadier and Ace she’s most deserving of a profile from the classic series

She had multiple seasons on Who

She has a spinoff

She has an audio spin-off and multiple EU appearances
 
Abscoolguy said:
Apparently Michael Moorcock wrote a dw novel at some point (the coming of the terraphiles) where he implied the Doctor is an aspect of the Eternal Champion from his own series hahaha
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What is the Eternal Champion? I remember in some stories the Doctor being called the Champion of Life. And in an unlicensed book, he was once called the Champion of Time.
 
Quasar002 said:
What is the Eternal Champion? I remember in some stories the Doctor being called the Champion of Life. And in an unlicensed book, he was once called the Champion of Time.
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Michael Moorcock’s Eternal Champion is a recurring character in his vast array of speculative fiction works, spanning multiple genres and timelines. The concept revolves around a being who exists in various forms throughout the Multiverse, upholding the Cosmic Balance between Law and Chaos.
Basically this
 
What time is it on Saturday? The live performance is supposed to coincide with the release on BF.
 
Do the Sontarans appear? They wanted revenge against The Master for his war crimes in their last encounter.

Also, are there any particularly noteworthy feats, especially from the Daleks?
 
ByAsura said:
Do the Sontarans appear? They wanted revenge against The Master for his war crimes in their last encounter.

Also, are there any particularly noteworthy feats, especially from the Daleks?
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Unfortunately not for the Sontarans

And the Daleks didn't do anything that noteworthy and it was kinda funny since 2 of the characters pushed one off a cliff. The Daleks were turning people into these "robomen" slaves and making them jump off a cliff in the city to help them dig said thing up. They were attempting to use the Master and dispose of him after but ofc the Master had his own plan and was double crossing them too.

It was mainly about the Bucca who was this legend and how the Daleks and the Master wanted to use its power as it could destroy the Earth and help them take over the Universe. The Doctor convinces both sides of that creature to like merge into one instead.

At the end the Master's TARDIS materialises as an Iron Maiden (torture trap lol) and the Master fakes dying by going into it but then materialising away.

Ofc I'll need to get the audio for all the quotes and etc of these things but yeah that's just from my viewing.
 
So like...whats the stance on Sutekh?

Was he retconned? Do the comics count now given he was supposedly latched onto the Tardis since Pyramids of Mars? Could there be a separate page for Live Action and extended media?
 
Jinx666 said:
So like...whats the stance on Sutekh?

Was he retconned? Do the comics count now given he was supposedly latched onto the Tardis since Pyramids of Mars? Could there be a separate page for Live Action and extended media?
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I have to read the run of doc 10th, but as far as I know Suketh had left fragments of his being, that's why he took control of his son Anubis
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
I have to read the run of doc 10th, but as far as I know Suketh had left fragments of his being, that's why he took control of his son Anubis
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Fairs but the Doctor only recalled encountering Sutekh last in Pyramids of Mars. Its Doctor Who Extended Media tho so it wont be consistent but feels like the actual show kinda takes precedence over that
 
Jinx666 said:
Fairs but the Doctor only recalled encountering Sutekh last in Pyramids of Mars. Its Doctor Who Extended Media tho so it wont be consistent but feels like the actual show kinda takes precedence over that
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When you see those inconsistencies, remember, the timeline(s) was reset so many times that it is no longer known what is true or not, Toymaker only appeared from the point of the series with the 1st Doctor and in the special, that is why both are in 2v1 at the end of the special, even though Toymaker and the doc met in the novels and in the comics like 8 times
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
When you see those inconsistencies, remember, the timeline(s) was reset so many times that it is no longer known what is true or not, Toymaker only appeared from the point of the series with the 1st Doctor and in the special, that is why both are in 2v1 at the end of the special, even though Toymaker and the doc met in the novels and in the comics like 8 times
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Well i mean, the obvious answer is different authors and writers not considering every single piece of previous Dr Who media but like, yh wibbly wobbly timey wimey.

Its just hard to ignore the Live Action, which should be the most canon form within the franchise, directly denying characters like Toymaker or Sutekh being met with beforehand. Then again, i only believe Sutekh wasnt present on the Tardis throughout the entire show, and this was just changed when the Doctor was at the edge of the universe with the salt ig.
 
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Oliver_de_jesus said:
I have to read the run of doc 10th, but as far as I know Suketh had left fragments of his being, that's why he took control of his son Anubis
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Basixally

* Sutekh sidestepped at the last minute and entered the Void

* Sutekh began reaching out through the shard in Anubis’ mind

* Fragment opened a portal which allowed Sutekh and a bunch of other Gods to enter the universe again and raise some hell

* Sutekh is sent to parts unknown via plot

The episode does reference that Sutekh has braved “the Howling” which is another name for the Void I guess

My headcanon is his timeline goes

* Pyramids of Mars

* 10th Doctor Comics (returning to the universe and being defeated by his Hand of Sutekh, destroying his body)

* he reincarnates through a new body in the Bernice Summerfield stuff before being caught in a time loop

* breaks the Time-loop and ends up on Drummond leading a corporation

* that ends badly and Sutekh ends up in the Vortex

* latches onto the Tardis and begins to rebuild himself, eventually fathering the Pantheon and wandering the stars

* later returns and enacts his plan
Oliver_de_jesus said:
When you see those inconsistencies, remember, the timeline(s) was reset so many times that it is no longer known what is true or not, Toymaker only appeared from the point of the series with the 1st Doctor and in the special, that is why both are in 2v1 at the end of the special, even though Toymaker and the doc met in the novels and in the comics like 8 times
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Jinx666 said:
Well i mean, the obvious answer is different authors and writers not considering every single piece of previous Dr Who media but like, yh wibbly wobbly timey wimey.

Its just hard to ignore the Live Action, which should be the most canon form within the franchise, directly denying characters like Toymaker or Sutekh being mentioned. Then again, i only believe Sutekh wasnt present on the Tardis throughout the entire show, and this was just changed when the Doctor was at the edge of the universe with the salt ig.
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It doesn’t really help that there’s no official canon to speak of and unless thag changed we have to live with this stuff
 
Jinx666 said:
Its just hard to ignore the Live Action, which should be the most canon form within the franchise
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We do regard the tv series as the primary and most prominent canon.

However, the way that time travel works in Doctor Who is that multiple events can often happen in different ways without contradicting each other. Doctor Who timelines are often presented as overlapping realities of continuity, especially when it comes to bottle universes.

So, basically, while some stories may not strictly be canon anymore, we can still use them for P&A and stats, like we've been doing with Shada.

It's when the TV show has a directly contradictory feat that we give the show precedence. For example, if a Cyber-gun takes multiple blasts to destroy a house in the tv show, we'll probably consider destroying a building in the audio series to be PIS.
 
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ByAsura said:
We do regard the tv series as the primary and most prominent canon.

However, the way that time travel works in Doctor Who is that multiple events can often happen in different ways without contradicting each other. Doctor Who timelines are often presented as overlapping realities of continuity, especially when it comes to bottle universes.

So, basically, while some stories may not strictly be canon anymore, we can still use them for P&A and stats, like we've been doing with Shada.

It's when the TV show has a directly contradictory feat that we give the show precedence. For example, if a Cyber-gun takes multiple blasts to destroy a house in the tv show, we'll probably consider destroying a building in the audio series to be PIS.
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Well true, but it should be a bit different for Sutekh who had canonically evolved to a god status above the Toymaker (He was powerful before ofc but originally as an Osiran within the universe, he shouldnt have been at that level surely) in main xcanon, by latching onto the tardis between his two canon live-action appearances.

Idk if anyones been working on Sutekh revisions tho tbf
 
If anything, becoming a Vortex being screws with your timeline more. The Space-Time Vortex is a realm of paradox both outside and inside space-time, meaning someone can be excised from the Web of Time outright or converted into a series of equations under the wrong (or right, if you're a member of Faction Paradox) circumstances.

We're working on verse revisions, which includes Sutekh.
 
Hellbeast said:
Plus Sutekh was latched onto the Tardis which is basically the concept of motion right? That might crew things up
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yeah



Technically speaking, the meme of Goku betrayed and trapped inside the Time chamber is canon in Doctor who with Suketh and Omega

OIP.UvfMJ4Fhl0IH2PCvfZ_r5gHaFo
 
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