Disney Discussion Thread

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Also sorry, I had plans to do more but I got hit with the flu.

Nah, it's fine.

I hope you get better

 

[Bobsican]

I checked out the new Disney+ Inside Out series, and TBH it settles that everything in Riley's mind is simply tier 11 (coexisting with dreams and so on). Technically one could also argue for Riley being 1-A, but given this is all portrayed as a mundane superiority every sentient character in the series has, it'd simply fall as tier 11 instead given precedents (more specifically what I saw happen with KH on that regard).

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Is the WFRR Comic Book and Graphic Novel canon?

I'm reworking Roger's profile and i need to know if it should also include information from them

Also, should Roger scale to Classical Mickey in speed?

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Is the WFRR Comic Book and Graphic Novel canon?

I'm reworking Roger's profile and i need to know if it should also include information from them

Also, should Roger scale to Classical Mickey in speed?

No, and I’m not sure.

 

[Propellus]

Also, should Roger scale to Classical Mickey in speed?

What for?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

What for?

Roger's current speed rating has no calc (Plus, i don't think he ever dodged a bullet on the actual movie or in any of his shorts), so i'm trying to find other possible ratings for him

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Speaking of Disney... Let's talk about the Disney series with arguably the most blatant confirmations of a lot of the classical Disney universes sharing the same universe canonically: Sofia the First

It blatantly shows that Hercules, Aladdin, Snow White, Cinderella, Tangled, Frozen, Mulan, and a good few others are a part of the same verse. I want to create a profile for them, but there is a lot of lore implications, with arguably one of the most important ones being the Mystic Isles. The Mystic Isles is the source of all magic period , so it has huge ramifications scaling wise considering the Crystalmaster directly scale to said Magic as they are responsible for placing the Crystals of each Isles that are the source of said magic, and Vor was effortlessly able to give one of the Antagonists the power of a Crystalmaster.

Does it change much ? Not really. Vor is consistently regarded as the greatest and strongest evil in the World's history, with it being consistently regarded that no one even remotely comes close. As a result, No one would really scale to her directly [except Sofia's Light of Goodness and the Amulet of Avalor's Magic respectively).

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Speaking of Disney... Let's talk about the Disney series with arguably the most blatant confirmations of a lot of the classical Disney universes sharing the same universe canonically: Sofia the First

It blatantly shows that Hercules, Aladdin, Snow White, Cinderella, Tangled, Frozen, Mulan, and a good few others are a part of the same verse. I want to create a profile for them, but there is a lot of lore implications, with arguably one of the most important ones being the Mystic Isles. The Mystic Isles is the source of all magic period , so it has huge ramifications scaling wise considering the Crystalmaster directly scale to said Magic as they are responsible for placing the Crystals of each Isles that are the source of said magic, and Vor was effortlessly able to give one of the Antagonists the power of a Crystalmaster.

Does it change much ? Not really. Vor is consistently regarded as the greatest and strongest evil in the World's history, with it being consistently regarded that no one even remotely comes close. As a result, No one would really scale to her directly [except Sofia's Light of Goodness and the Amulet of Avalor's Magic respectively).

I think that StF would fall under one-sided crossover as I don’t think it’s ever been officially recognized in the main canon or in any of the films’ proceeding material but you’re right in that there’s a lot of ground to cover regarding that series.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I think that StF would fall under one-sided crossover as I don’t think it’s ever been officially recognized in the main canon or in any of the films’ proceeding material but you’re right in that there’s a lot of ground to cover regarding that series.

More often than not unfortunately, but thankfully it is the same company creating StF that created those series so we can safely assume it's an equal equivalent of those versions (aka, as you said, one-way canon, the shows/movies are canon to StF , but StF is not canon to the shows)

Kinda helps with creating a profile for how Magic works in StF since they recently said they're making a series focusing on Sofia learning Magic at the school, so I'll wait for that to come out so I can deal with that all at once.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

More often than not unfortunately, but thankfully it is the same company creating StF that created those series so we can safely assume it's an equal equivalent of those versions (aka, as you said, one-way canon, the shows/movies are canon to StF , but StF is not canon to the shows)

Kinda helps with creating a profile for how Magic works in StF since they recently said they're making a series focusing on Sofia learning Magic at the school, so I'll wait for that to come out so I can deal with that all at once.

Agreed on that front. I wish something like that existed for the main canon to help establish magic rules for the verse.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Good News!

A while ago i requested @Demon_Lord18, a friend of mine, to calculate some feats from the Roger Rabbit shorts

Here's the results:

Roger Rabbit's calc compilation

vsbattles.fandom.com

We now have new City level+, Multi-City Block level and Hypersonic feats for Classical Era Disney. Given how other Toons such as Mickey, Goofy and Donald are expected to tank the same kind of damage, these feats should apply to them as well.

Beyond that, a while ago i've started to work on a new profile for Roger:

Accelerated Evolution/Roger Rabbit

vsbattles.fandom.com

The profile is pretty much complete. My only remaining doubt is: Should Roger's AP scale to his Durability? I don't think so, but i would like to see your opinions on the topic

 

[Propellus]

Good News!

A while ago i requested @Demon_Lord18, a friend of mine, to calculate some feats from the Roger Rabbit shorts

Here's the results:

Roger Rabbit's calc compilation

vsbattles.fandom.com

We now have new City level+, Multi-City Block level and Hypersonic feats for Classical Era Disney. Given how other Toons such as Mickey, Goofy and Donald are expected to tank the same kind of damage, these feats should apply to them as well.

Beyond that, a while ago i've started to work on a new profile for Roger:

Accelerated Evolution/Roger Rabbit

vsbattles.fandom.com

The profile is pretty much complete. My only remaining doubt is: Should Roger's AP scale to his Durability? I don't think so, but i would like to see your opinions on the topic

Why's mexico so close to California on the map?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Why's mexico so close to California on the map?

???

They border each other in real life, wdym?

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Good News!

A while ago i requested @Demon_Lord18, a friend of mine, to calculate some feats from the Roger Rabbit shorts

Here's the results:

Roger Rabbit's calc compilation

vsbattles.fandom.com

We now have new City level+, Multi-City Block level and Hypersonic feats for Classical Era Disney. Given how other Toons such as Mickey, Goofy and Donald are expected to tank the same kind of damage, these feats should apply to them as well.

Beyond that, a while ago i've started to work on a new profile for Roger:

Accelerated Evolution/Roger Rabbit

vsbattles.fandom.com

The profile is pretty much complete. My only remaining doubt is: Should Roger's AP scale to his Durability? I don't think so, but i would like to see your opinions on the topic

My thoughts on this.

I think we can get away with a “possibly” for City level classical shorts since Toons are indeed expected to endure this level of punishment in their cartoons, and Roger is portrayed as basically your average toon in the movie. Admins might be suspicious considering that we don’t have any concrete ways of directly scaling the other Disney characters to Roger, so that’s why the possibly would be important.

Not sure if we can scale Roger’s speed to them but Donald already carries the classic verse with his two massively hypersonic feats, so that’s alright.

Now, for Roger’s AP and Durability, I would say that this is indeed the case. Roger is able to repeatedly hurt himself and say it causes him “no pain”.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I think we can get away with a “possibly” for City level classical shorts since Toons are indeed expected to endure this level of punishment in their cartoons, and Roger is portrayed as basically your average toon in the movie. Admins might be suspicious considering that we don’t have any concrete ways of directly scaling the other Disney characters to Roger, so that’s why the possibly would be important.

"Roger wasn't distracted because a refrigerator had been dropped on his head. He was a Toon, and Toons could take anything"

Imo, we have enough evidence for the same applying to almost all Toons

At the very least it should be a "likely" rating, but i will continue to support a full-rating

Not sure if we can scale Roger’s speed to them but Donald already carries the classic verse with his two massively hypersonic feats, so that’s alright.

Yeah, we don't have enough evidence to do so and vice versa

Now, for Roger’s AP and Durability, I would say that this is indeed the case. Roger is able to repeatedly hurt himself and say it causes him “no pain”.

Of course! Had forget about these sadomasochistic moments of Roger

 

[DimeUhDozen]

"Roger wasn't distracted because a refrigerator had been dropped on his head. He was a Toon, and Toons could take anything"

Imo, we have enough evidence for the same applying to almost all Toons

At the very least it should be a "likely" rating, but i will continue to support a full-rating

The only wonky thing is that this could be also referring to their elastic nature or their Immortality Types 2, 3, and 4. They do definitely have insane levels of durability, but those aren’t all the factors in why they can “take anything”.

That being said, it is still a factor and I think a likely rating is definitely possible, and if they take 7-B just straight up, then I’ll be all for it as it’s very close to the highest feat in the next era.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

The only wonky thing is that this could be also referring to their elastic nature or their Immortality Types 2, 3, and 4. They do definitely have insane levels of durability, but those aren’t all the factors in why they can “take anything”.

In the quote i sent above, the statement is referring to how Roger's Toon nature makes something that should normally harm a human (A refrigerator dropping on your Head) don't affect Roger at all. Making a parallel between his Toon Physiology and his physical durability

 

[DimeUhDozen]

In the quote i sent above, the statement is referring to how Roger's Toon nature makes something that should normally harm a human (A refrigerator dropping on your Head) don't affect Roger at all. Making a parallel between his Toon Physiology and his physical durability

I suppose that works.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Thread 'Mickey Mouse: Conceptual Wishes'

Today at 05:30

As the Toon Physiology page states, Toons are made up of magic Paint that gives them sentience and their life, and that their souls are also comprised of paint. But some new info from the art book states that paint is the very basis of cartoon reality, and gives everything its color, sustenance and energy. It also harnesses the power of imagination.

Magic itself is comprised of wishes. When used in conjunction with the power of the stars in the sky, the heart’s magic has the power to make wishes come true. When used as examples, the magic of the Blue Fairy...

• DimeUhDozen
• mickey mouse mickey mouse & friends
• Replies: 2
• Forum: Content Revision

• 

Trying this out separately from the bigger Mickey page revamp just so we don't get cluttered with the controversial change first.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Thread 'Mickey Mouse: Conceptual Wishes'

Today at 05:30

As the Toon Physiology page states, Toons are made up of magic Paint that gives them sentience and their life, and that their souls are also comprised of paint. But some new info from the art book states that paint is the very basis of cartoon reality, and gives everything its color, sustenance and energy. It also harnesses the power of imagination.

Magic itself is comprised of wishes. When used in conjunction with the power of the stars in the sky, the heart’s magic has the power to make wishes come true. When used as examples, the magic of the Blue Fairy...

• DimeUhDozen
• mickey mouse mickey mouse & friends
• Replies: 2
• Forum: Content Revision

• 

Trying this out separately from the bigger Mickey page revamp just so we don't get cluttered with the controversial change first.

I was going to publish my Roger's page revamp by tomorrow, guess i will have to wait for your thread to finish

How many CRts do you expect to be made for the additions we have been discussing?

Btw, what about AE and the Fate Manipulation we discussed earlier? Are still thinking on making CRTs for these proposals?

 

[DimeUhDozen]

I was going to publish my Roger's page revamp by tomorrow, guess i will have to wait for your thread to finish

How many CRts do you expect to be made for the additions we have been discussing?

Just one other. The changes are pretty self-explanatory and are just reorganizing tiers and new stats.

Btw, what about AE and the Fate Manipulation we discussed earlier? Are still thinking on making CRTs for these proposals?

Maybe, but we don’t have enough info for fate. It’s only implied. And AE will probably be discussed in the thread. If it’s not we can more closely do that in the main Disney revamp thread.