Dio brando vs tomoe

[Ss3micah]

It means that Dio has no way of winning, and Tomoe is too overpowered. We flip a coin to see who goes to the next match.

What the actual hell?
I have never heard of this kind of practice/tactic before

Besides tomoe isn't that OP compared to other 6-B characters (Lavos)
If anything DIO is just too underpowered. The guy literally only has two resistances to his name

 

[Kachon123]

I have never heard of this kind of practice/tactic before

It's used in tournaments.

Besides tomoe isn't that OP compared to other 6-B characters (Lavos)
If anything DIO is just too underpowered. The guy literally only has two resistances to his name

All you have to say is Tomoe FRA, or vote Flip a Coin. It's that simple

 

[speedster352]

It's used in tournaments.

All you have to say is Tomoe FRA, or vote Flip a Coin. It's that simple

I vote for a coin flip

 

[Baken384]

Use dio over heaven

 

[Ss3micah]

It's used in tournaments.

Kind of unfair to make the weaker progress

All you have to say is Tomoe FRA, or vote Flip a Coin. It's that simple

Oh Tomoe FRA then

 

[speedster352]

Use dio over heaven

He is not 6b remember?

 

[Ss3micah]

Use dio over heaven

An excellent Idea
Only one problem...
He has no 6-B Key

 

[speedster352]

It's used in tournaments.

All you have to say is Tomoe FRA, or vote Flip a Coin. It's that simple

It’s not a big deal their is the loser bracket that will slow the characters to come back but I am all for a coin flip

 

[Baken384]

I didn't know this is a 6-B tournament

 

[speedster352]

I didn't know this is a 6-B tournament

Should we have a coin flip?

 

[Ss3micah]

It’s not a big deal their is the loser bracket that will slow the characters to come back but I am all for a coin flip

LOLOLOL
What's the point of eliminating her now just to bring her back later
Also who will do the coin flip and more importantly how will we know they are being honest about the result?

 

[Ss3micah]

Should we have a coin flip?

Lets wait for more opinions

 

[Baken384]

Why coin flip? It looks like this match is in favor for Tomoe.

 

[speedster352]

Why coin flip? It looks like this match is in favor for Tomoe.

Yeah but it is a stomp match it’s only fair

 

[Ss3micah]

Why coin flip? It looks like this match is in favor for Tomoe.

According to some... because she looks to OP for this tournament
Which honestly isn't entirely true because right now you have combatants who are resistant to her hax
I honestly blame DIO for just being so haxless and barely having any resistances

 

[Baken384]

Idk how Dio's beyond shenanigans work. Should have used Kars lol

 

[speedster352]

If you agree with a coin flip it shall be done if note tomoe moves on don’t worry their is a loser bracket and your character can return

 

[speedster352]

Idk how Dio's beyond shenanigans work. Should have used Kars lol

I did but they said he is too haxed even without his stands

 

[YungManzi]

Besides tomoe isn't that OP compared to other 6-B characters (Lavos)

Well... She is like... the strongest non-smurf 6-B, arguably.

 

[Baken384]

I did but they said he is too haxed even without his stands

 

[speedster352]

So should tomoe be along to stay in this tournament and continue to advance?

 

[StekFence]

Ummm.... Feats of DIO's Time stop halting the effects from Passive Aura where?

Passives can’t do anything through time stop, For example, a fire is passiveLy hot, but won’t effect anything due to being stopped

 

[speedster352]

Passives can’t do anything through time stop, For example, a fire is passiveLy hot, but won’t effect anything due to being stopped

But they keep being up what happen is part 3 of jojo when dio can see into the future

 

[StekFence]

What?

 

[Ss3micah]

So should tomoe be along to stay in this tournament and continue to advance?

I would prefer her continue progressing
A character as underhaxed as DIO likely wouldnt make it too hax against any other character especially those that have an offensive passive with them

 

[speedster352]

Stomp. Tomoe looks at DIO and knows everything he can do, and timestop isn't a good Wincon here considering passive aura, so yeah.
It's not like the aura will just... stop existing in ts.

What?

 

[Ss3micah]

Passives can’t do anything through time stop, For example, a fire is passiveLy hot, but won’t effect anything due to being stopped

That heavily depends on which verses your referring to because in some it works that way
Putting your hand in a fire even in stop time wont stop it from burning you

 

[StekFence]

Putting your hand in a fire even in stop time wont stop it from burning you

In real life, no it would not, as the molecules cannot become agitated and thus wouldn’t become hot. If this is the kinda passive where like, you look at him and he’s so complex your mind melts, then yeah time stop won’t help. But if it’s the kinda of passive where stuff just happens, I would imagine time stop would counter.

 

[Ss3micah]

Passives can’t do anything through time stop, For example, a fire is passiveLy hot, but won’t effect anything due to being stopped

And this honestly cant be used because as we clearly saw in part 3
Jotaro's magnet worked in DIO's stop time. So yeah you need better arguments for proving DIO's stopped time can stop passive effects

 

[StekFence]

Jotaro's magnet worked in DIO's stop time.

I think that’s because Jotaro himself could, and the magnet was on his person.

 

[Ss3micah]

I think that’s because Jotaro himself could, and the magnet was on his person.

Jotaro wasn't stopping time at that moment so no

 

[StekFence]

Jotaro wasn't stopping time at that moment so no

I don’t believe he needs to, and for that matter, neither was the magnet. I’m 99% sure he doesn’t need to stop time

 

[Ss3micah]

There is also the Fact that Joseph's Hamon could still be conducted by the World even in a stopped Time
If it was truly the cause that Stopped Time can stop passive effects then this should not have been the case

 

[Ss3micah]

I don’t believe he needs to, and for that matter, neither was the magnet. I’m 99% sure he doesn’t need to stop time

He doesn't need to stop time to do what?

 

[StekFence]

There is also the Fact that Joseph's Hamon could still be conducted by the World even in a stopped Time

This firstly isn’t proven, as dio has no hamon users to test this on. Secondly, he’s just being cautious, on the chance it moves and one shots him. Thirdly, I’m also pretty sure it doesn’t conduct through stands, so he’s def being super cautious, because it will one shot him if it works, even if it prob wont

 

[StekFence]

He doesn't need to stop time to do what?

To move in time stop. He only figured it out at the end of the fight, and was attacking through dios time stop before that

 

[Ss3micah]

This firstly isn’t proven, as dio has no hamon users to test this on. Secondly, he’s just being cautious, on the chance it moves and one shots him. Thirdly, I’m also pretty sure it doesn’t conduct through stands, so he’s def being super cautious, because it will one shot him if it works, even if it prob wont

You say that but DIO looked pretty sure that touching Joseph covered in hamon would have affected him

To move in time stop. He only figured it out at the end of the fight, and was attacking through dios time stop before that

Okay but there is a clear indication of when Jotaro isn't and is moving in time stop
When he isn't he's paled out and when he is he is colored up and when the magnet was shown moving Jotaro was clearly paled out




And EVEN if we disregard ALL THAT there is still nothing that definitively proves DIO can Time Stop passive effects. He has genuinely never displayed such a feat before
EDIT: Don't bring up the Fire Example again, Im talking about In verse Passive effects not IRL Science/logic passive effects that may or may not apply to some verses

 

[StekFence]

DIO looked pretty sure that touching Joseph covered in hamon would have affected him

Based on literally nothing but the fear of it working

 

[Ss3micah]

Based on literally nothing but the fear of it working

Having that fear in the first place already shows DIO himself knows he cant stop passive effects. If he did knew that he could stop passive effects for a fact then he would have no reason to fear at all

 

[StekFence]

Okay but there is a clear indication of when Jotaro isn't and is moving in time stop
When he isn't he's paled out and when he is he is colored up and when the magnet was shown moving Jotaro was clearly paled out

Either Jotaro can move in time stop and the color doesn’t show it, or a magnet can when nothing else can.