DickMaster Additions (Hazbin Hotel)

[ShionAH]

Realised some stuff that could be added to the profile or the very least argued.

Spoiler: Adam PnA

• Heat Manipulation for Holy Light (Effortlessly vaporized Sir Pentious and his entire blimp with one energy blast)​
• Resistance to Heat and Fire Manipulation (He endured numerous punches from an enraged Lucifer, who was heating up and burning his punches while delivering them. Lucifer's heat should be superior to Adam's)​
• Resistance to Death Manipulation (He fought and easily defeated Alastor, who can induce Death (Passively??)​
• Non-Physical Interaction and Resistance to Darkness Manipulation (Fought and destroyed all of Alastor's minions and tentacles while also tanking hits from them, cleared all of Alastor's tentacles in one blow)​
• Resistance to Electricity (?) (Alastor's tentacles and minions have like an electric aura and the noise they make also supports this)​

Spoiler: Votes

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[DaReaperMan]

• Heat is fine, I guess. Could argue its just AP though.
• It's not really a resistance for Adam cause Lucifer was beating Adam's ass, for all we know Lucifer's fire is just not comparable to the heat from light beams, plus limited contact means that Adam wouldn't be taking all that much heat.
• I'd say that Death Manipulation would only apply to plants(if that) considering we've never seen Alastor deathhax a living person.
• NPI is fine, Resistance to Darkness Manipulation is not. Alastor's Darkness is pure AP so Adam just Durability'd through it.
• I'd wait for more information on if that's actually electricity, and I wouldn't agree with it anyway considering we never see it impact Adam, and EVEN THEN he could've just Durability'd it.

 

[ShionAH]

It's not really a resistance for Adam cause Lucifer was beating Adam's ass,

Adam was tanking it, any other being would have burned and destroyed.

for all we know Lucifer's fire is just not comparable to the heat from light beams,

I mean ehh, Lucifer is much more powerful and has a stronger Angelic Magic. Fires entire deal is being hot also lol

I mean technically unless we can prove Alastor can only do it to plants it will be normal death hax (Vox literally has mind hax so I wouldnt be surprised if Alastor had a instant win hax)

 

[DaReaperMan]

Adam was tanking it, any other being would have burned and destroyed.

Because Lucifer is currently the strongest character in the verse? Tanking hits from him and managing to get up is a feat in of itself, but there's a reason fire resistance is usually from standing in the shit, not getting punched by it because of how fire works.

I mean ehh, Lucifer is much more powerful and has a stronger Angelic Magic. Fires entire deal is being hot also lol

Now turn on a lighter and put your hand through the flame really fast. That's basically what happened here, you need a bit of extended contact to get burned.

I mean technically unless we can prove Alastor can only do it to plants it will be normal death hax (Vox literally has mind hax so I wouldnt be surprised if Alastor had a instant win hax)

He has only done it to plants, and has touched numerous people and not killed them on the spot.

 

[ShionAH]

Because Lucifer is currently the strongest character in the verse? Tanking hits from him and managing to get up is a feat in of itself, but there's a reason fire resistance is usually from standing in the shit, not getting punched by it because of how fire works.

If someone literally uses THEIR FIRE MAGIC TO BURN AND HEAT THEIR PUNCHES that wouldd be a Fire Resistance. Real simple, if Adam didnt have it he would burn or even more

Now turn on a lighter and put your hand through the flame really fast. That's basically what happened here, you need a bit of extended contact to get burned.

Adam took like 7 or more continous punches from burning and heated up hands of Lucifer, my lighter is not the same as Lucifers ******* fire magic

He has only done it to plants, and has touched numerous people and not killed them on the spot.

Yeah but he wasnt trying to kill them

 

[DaReaperMan]

If someone literally uses THEIR FIRE MAGIC TO BURN AND HEAT THEIR PUNCHES that wouldd be a Fire Resistance. Real simple, if Adam didnt have it he would burn or even more

Adam took like 7 or more continous punches from burning and heated up hands of Lucifer, my lighter is not the same as Lucifers ******* fire magic

Okay and I can wave my hand through fire 10 times consecutively and not get burned. It would be up to you to prove that Lucifer's fire inherently functions differently to normal fire.

Yeah but he wasnt trying to kill them

That's just proof it's not passive or Alastor's Death Manipulation only applies to what we've seen it work on: plants.

 

[ShionAH]

Okay and I can wave my hand through fire 10 times consecutively and not get burned.

Lets burn my hand and I punch you 10 times, it will burn. This is being so nit picky for no fricking reason, Adam can tank super heated burning punches from Lucifer who scalez above Adams heat. Thats literally more than enough

It would be up to you to prove that Lucifer's fire inherently functions differently to normal fire.

Already proved it, its superior to Adams Magic.

That's just proof it's not passive or Alastor's Death Manipulation only applies to what we've seen it work on: plants.

Then shouldnt it be limited?

 

[CodeCCLL]

• Heat is fine, I guess. Could argue its just AP though.

Vaporizing someone is not temperature/heat manipulation.

Adam didnt have it he would burn or even more

Touch a burning wood and a metal stick to each other 7 or more times and pull them back, you will see that the metal stick does not burn.

For the rest, I agree with @DaReaperMan arguments.

 

[ShionAH]

Things you use as an example are not hotter tha stuff that can vaporize metal

Why are we being so nit picky holy shit its Adam not getting burned by fire punches simple as hell

 

[DaReaperMan]

Lets burn my hand and I punch you 10 times, it will burn. This is being so nit picky for no fricking reason, Adam can tank super heated burning punches from Lucifer who scalez above Adams heat. Thats literally more than enough

Already proved it, its superior to Adams Magic.

Where's the proof Lucifer's fire is above Adam's heat?

Oh, he's... stronger? How's that proof?

his magic is better? A beam=/= fire though, right?

It goes on and on Shion. None of this is actual feats of what you're claiming. Adam would, at best, have neutered heat resistance to the point it doesn't matter for anything, if you want this to be the case, show me Lucifer grabbing Adam with fire instead of punching him with it, extremely minimal contact=no proper resistance, that's how fire works.

Then shouldnt it be limited?

I mean I think it shouldn't be there at all but yeah limited would be fine.

 

[ShionAH]

Where's the proof Lucifer's fire is above Adam's heat?

Oh, he's... stronger? How's that proof?

his magic is better? A beam=/= fire though, right?

What??

Adam use Magic = Light

Lucifer use Magic = Fire

Lucifed Magic > Adam Magic

Fire > Light

It goes on and on Shion. None of this is actual feats of what you're claiming. Adam would, at best, have neutered heat resistance to the point it doesn't matter for anything, if you want this to be the case, show me Lucifer grabbing Adam with fire instead of punching him with it, extremely minimal contact=no proper resistance, that's how fire works.

It is not just punching once but like 10 mf times, Ive seen characters get Heat resistance for far more weaker feats

Adam is getting hit by superheated burning hands, continiously. He doesnt get hit 1 or 2 times he gets hit like 10. You are being nitpicky and I know why

 

[CodeCCLL]

Adam use Magic = Light

Lucifer use Magic = Fire

Lucifed Magic > Adam Magic

Fire > Light

Lucifer use magic = fire breathing duck
Adam use Magic = holy light
Lucifer magic > Adam magic
Fire breathing duck > holy light

Lol, what kind of logic is this?

 

[DaReaperMan]

What??

Adam use Magic = Light

Lucifer use Magic = Fire

Lucifed Magic > Adam Magic

Fire > Light

"Huh? What do you MEAN i need proof for extraordinary claims? These magics should be sufficient for my upscale scaling of heat!"(Despite the fact that Fire and light are unrelated until you back up your extraordinary claims with extraordinary evidence)

It is not just punching once but like 10 mf times, Ive seen characters get Heat resistance for far more weaker feats

Adam is getting hit by superheated burning hands, continiously. He doesnt get hit 1 or 2 times he gets hit like 10. You are being nitpicky and I know why

Then remove those heat resistances. Two wrongs do not make a right.

I see no reason to hear the same exact argument form you again, so count what I agree with and disagree with and be done with it