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This has been in the making for a long time. I'm revising abilities for the entire verse. And before anyone asks, Oryx is getting a CRT of his own.



  • Shin Malphur: Poison Manipulation and Disease Manipulation with Thorn

    Loses Resurrection and all Immortalities except Type 1 (Shin never paired with Jaren’s Ghost. He can’t be rezzed) and all his ‘Possiblyabilities (after looking at his lore there is not a single indication that he uses other elements and it’s not as if this is unheard of among veteran Guardians)

  • Malok: Vibration Manipulation (Fist of Darkness), Explosion Manipulation (Axion Darts)

    Loses Type 5 Immortality if Taken in general don’t get it

  • Riven: Bodily Weaponry (duh), Power Bestowal, Resurrection, Antimatter Manipulation, Limited Incorporeality/Abstract Existence (whatever existing as a disembodied consciousness after death is), Precognition (here Ahamkara predict the events of Forsaken), further Death Manipulation and Regeneration and Immortality Negation with Creeping Darkness and Gaze of Riven (Creeping Darkness instantly kills the target if it reaches enough stacks and the Gaze of Riven can irrevocably kill a raid team), Biological Manipulation? with Ascendant Atrophy, Homing Attack (Axion Darts), Possession 2, Dimensional Travel (travels between the Dreaming City and Ascendant Plane during the Last Wish raid), Enhanced Senses (seems to sense desire in a variety of ways), and Extrasensory Perception

    Loses “existing in realms removed from conventional space and time within the Ascendant Plane and elsewhere in the Dreaming City”

    Reflective surfaces can reveal the truth behind Ahamkara illusions

  • Crota: Sense Manipulation

    Loses Higher-Dimensional Existence (the scan doesn’t support powerful Ascendants being higher-dimensional themselves)

  • Daughters of Oryx: Transmutation, Sense Manipulation, Poison Manipulation (Basic Wizard ability), Status Effect Inducement (Basic Wizard ability), Energy Manipulation, Magnetism Manipulation and Electricity Manipulation through their magic and Darkness Blasts

    Lose Higher-Dimensional Existence (the scan doesn’t support powerful Ascendants being higher-dimensional themselves)


  • Nokris: Electricity Manipulation and Magnetism Manipulation with Darkness Blasts, Vibration Manipulation with Darkness Smash, and Extrasensory Perception

  • Akka: Loses Higher-Dimensional Existence (the scan doesn’t support powerful Ascendants being higher-dimensional themselves), Type 6 Immortality (since he was Oryx’s patron god, not his worm) and Resistance to active Taking (not the the Taken Blight)

  • Xol: Loses Higher-Dimensional Existence (the scan doesn’t support powerful Ascendants being higher-dimensional themselves), Type 6 Immortality and Resistance to active Taking (not the the Taken Blight)








  • Paracausal Entities: Mathematics Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation (Light and Darkness), Clairvoyance/Pressure Points? (Sword Logic. Apparently finding the weakest part of a structure and destroying it is inherent to the Sword Logic), Resistance to Power Absorption and Power Modification (attempts at taking or mimicking paracausal powers generally fail. Ghaul is the only one to ever steal a paracausal power and this had a lot of caveats attached to it [I can explain in the thread for any who are unfamiliar with the verse]. To modify a paracausal entity’s abilities you’d have to alter the Light/Darkness/Sword Logic, since the abilities aren’t usually inherent to the entity in question), Acausality (Type 4) for Ascendants (Oryx became a paracausal being around the time he became Ascendant)


  • Void Light: Energy Manipulation (isn’t listed everywhere), Homing Attack and Power Nullification (with void 3.0 all void subclasses can use all void grenades, including homing and suppressor ones), Summoning (Warlock - with Child of the Old Gods), Invisibility, Time Slow (probably only Warlocks), Corrosion Inducement (probably only Hunters), Resistance Negation (with Echo of Undermining)

  • Arc Light: Quantum Manipulation (it’s already been accepted that the Light elements are the result of manipulating quantum fields), Weather Manipulation 3

  • Taken Blight and Resistance to it:

Our pages aren’t entirely consistent concerning this. I’ll only add links to abilities that haven’t already been accepted or mentioned in the paracausal entities section.

- Abilities: Corruption, Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Mathematics Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2), Existence Erasure, Void Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Possession

Anything that spreads the Taken Blight gets these abilities and Resistance to them, except for mathematics manipulation, information manipulation, conceptual manipulation and space-time manipulation (that is because they have already been affected by these abilities and aren’t under active control of them). Guardians and some powerful beings that have a reason to resist the Taken Blight (such as being fine in an infested area) get Resistance to all aforementioned abilities, except corruption and space-time manipulation (that is because there are cases where they are affected by other instances of corruption and because the space-time manipulation doesn’t target them).

  • Standard Resistances Powerful Bosses:

We don’t really have a standard so they’re inconsistent on our pages. The majority of these Resistances come from resisting Guardian abilities. If an ability is unlinked it’s because it’s already generally accepted or because it was linked earlier in this CRT.

- Resistances: Subjective Reality, Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Matter Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation, Temperature Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Light Manipulation, Radiation Manipulation, Magma Manipulation, Plasma Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Magnetism Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Pain Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, Black Hole Creation, Statistics Reduction, Soul Manipulation, Life and Energy-Absorption, Corrosion Inducement, Physics Manipulation, Absolute Zero, Power Nullification, Status Effect Inducement, Sense Manipulation, Poison Manipulation, Transmutation, and Sound Manipulation

  • Standard Resistances Immune Enemies:

Only enemies that have some sort of backing for their immunity not being game mechanics count of course. Otherwise it’s the same thing as above and also includes all of the earlier mentioned Resistances.

- Resistances: Crystal Manipulation(?), Mathematics Manipulation, Smoke Manipulation, Nanotechnology, Disease Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation and Information Manipulation (because of ontological weapons like the Thorn), Resistance Negation, Curse Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Regeneration and Immortality Negation (Deathbringer shoots a Death song, also because of Red Death etc. Only if paracausal powers are involved!), Telekinesis (from Warlocks), Vibration Manipulation

Thank you for your time (and possibly your input). If I'm missing any obvious ability additions/removals or if you have more scans to support the proposed changes, please do speak up.

  • CONCLUSION:
- Riven gets Limited Incorporeality

- Sword Logic users get Clairvoyance


Agrees with the revision: @Overlord775, @PsychoWarper, @Sakamaki_Fuji, @Roachman40, @Sir_Ovens, @Shmooply, @Mr.Cinos15, @Setsuna_tenma, @Harith0cell, @Hl3_or_bust, @CrimsonStarFallen

Disagrees with revision:
 
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I just noticed bolded, italic and underlining didn't get copy-pasted, so excuse me as I suffer.
 
Everything seems pretty reasonable so I agree as well, also agree with Over that Disembodied Consciousness is Incorp.
 
Thanks for your quick replies.

Right, and what are your thoughts on the part about Sword Logic finding the weakest part in a structure and destroying it?
 
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I haven't touched Destiny since like 2018 and disagree with more or less all current ratings. I'm probably not fit for the CRT.
 
This thread only touches abilities and most of them are pretty straightforward. Still, that's fair enough.
 
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