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Deoxys vs Sasuke

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They are drained of natural energy, the stuff that sages use to amp themselves.

Chakra is not inherent to all life. Yin (mental energy) and Yang (physical energy) are, but the two need training to be combined into chakra.
 
The real cal howard said:
Said clones have not amazing durability tho. Also not sure if we can verse equalize a Chakra path for Deoxys to do xyz on due to Deoxys literally being a living virus.
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Just wanna remind you that Naruto's clones took on Third Raikage, and Second Tscuhikage. Those clones are no joke.
 
Also my vote's squarely on the side of Deoxys given it kinda hard counters everything Sasuke does. Sasuke can't lolgenjutsu it, which is pretty much his only way of winning besides sealing. And many other esoteric abilities get shut down by Taunt. Amaterasu acts more like a burn status than it does a trapping status given that it one, doesn't trap and two, acts almost exactly like a burn does in the anime but worse, so Psycho Shift would work there. Deoxys can also just like...steal the Sharingan with Skill Swap.
 
Very. None of these are weird one-off moves it does in the anime. They're all part of its learnset that it spams in-game because well...it's Pokemon.
 
The real cal howard said:
Very. None of these are weird one-off moves it does in the anime. They're all part of its learnset that it spams in-game because well...it's Pokemon.
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Where do we get the "in character" moves for pokemon from?
 
Viruses living has been argued, but the fact that it can't reproduce of it's own is not a reason to assume it has no physical or mental power, because dūh.

And... it can reproduce, so it's only a virus in name.
 
Taunt isn't going to work on this Sasuke, judging by its description of "taunting the foe into a rage". Too level-headed. Skill Swap might be a problem, but taking his Sharingan wouldn't take his Rinnegan, and vice-versa. Sasuke would also get Pressure in exchange.

Actually, doesn't Skill Swap appear as a projectile? Sasuke could just instantly switch places with a rock or something via Amenotejikara to dodge it.

300px-Skill Swap VII
300px-Skill Swap VII 2
 
Taunt is power null. It's going to work. Also even if it wasn't, there are Pokémon that are much more level headed than Sasuke that it works on, like every psychic.

Even going without Taunt, Amenotajikara isn't going to be the most useful ability because Deoxys teleports too.
 
I don't think something like this is going to hit Sasuke.

Sasuke can teleport Deoxys under his chidori at the very last moment so he won't even react.
 
It ain't but I gave my reasonings regardless :p

But seriously, clone spamming regen abusing shield creating healing genius monster virus who's dna allows for pseudo-immunity to physical attacks isn't easy to put down without lolhax. Sasuke is gonna be lucky to even hit Deoxys, let alone put him down.
 
The real cal howard said:
Susanoo is a physical weapon, which means Deoxys's physiology absorbs the impact on a cellular level.
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Remember, that core is a weakspot.
 
Hoe good is it? Cause Susanno scales way above his physically stats cause you said pseudo immunity which means it's obviously not perfect.
 
IIRC Deoxys' Mind hax should be higher than Mewtwo's, at least by Game stats.

So shouldn't Deoxys just mind hax GG?
 
Udlmaster said:
IIRC Deoxys' Mind hax should be higher than Mewtwo's, at least by Game stats.
So shouldn't Deoxys just mind hax GG?
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Deoxys doesn't use mind hax in-character, at least in-combat. It only ever used Mind Control on Meowth, and that was exclusively to communicate with Max.
 
A Stoned Orc said:
Udlmaster said:
IIRC Deoxys' Mind hax should be higher than Mewtwo's, at least by Game stats.
So shouldn't Deoxys just mind hax GG?
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Deoxys doesn't use mind hax in-character, at least in-combat. It only ever used Mind Control on Meowth, and that was exclusively to communicate with Max.
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Fair
 
@Cal

You mean that fight with Madara where ppl voted FRA for questionable vote that wasn't even legit?

That needs a rematch.

Madara would destroy Deoxys with Limbo,MindHax and TSB.

@Pachi

I vote Sasuke.

Edit:I am unsabbing so don't bother answering me.VS threads are essentially trash and not fair.I made a mistake by commenting here.
 
Deoxys would not be mindhaxed by sasuke, he has thinks like light screen, safeguard, and magic coat to reflect back genjutsu to sasuke. Pressue would tire out an already stamina weak sasuke, especially his dojutsu. Cutting Deoxys won't really do anything, with Recover.

Taunt prevents Sasuke from using non-direct damaging moves like genjutsu. Cosmic power to bolster defenses. It can spam teleport in the battle as well. Reflect lowers sasukes AP. Iron Defense even more. It can use skill swap to take away Sasuke's rinnegan/sharingan potentially. It can knock off his ninja tools. If he tries to teleport away he can use pursuit to do even more damage. It can snatch away any type of healing he could have from ninja tools or food pills. Amnesia bolsters the mind's defense. Brick Break would take care of the Susano. Rock Tomb would slow Sasuke down. Thunderwave would slow him down.


Sasuke gets negged by Deoxys
 
Lightscreen and safeguard don't protect from genjutsu, tho', and magic coat wouldn't work, because Sasuke's eyes can see through genjutsu.

Pursuit won't work very well with Amenotejikara. It's instant switching with an object, Pursuit hits with double damage in the attempt of fleeing. Even if Deoxys used Wrap, Sasuke can replace himself with a rock or something using Amenotejikara to escape Deoxys' tentacles.

Brick Break wouldn't be guaranteed to work against Susano'o, either, (it'd be more akin to a Substitute than a screen, since it takes damage for Sasuke, rather than making incoming damage less effective) and even if it did, Sasuke can repair it via chakra.

Rock Tomb has a chance to miss (and Sasuke won't be standing still for Deoxys to try, anyway, besides), and Sasuke can neg Thunderwave with absorption. Also, Amnesia doesn't bolster against mindhax, it just raises against special defense.

...Sasuke could also just open up a portal to Kaguya's gravity dimension or something, but that'd take a decent chunk of chakra (though not so much that he couldn't fight on par with Momoshiki or spam Rinnegan/EMS abilities during that fight after opening the portal to the divine tree).

If Deoxys really wins via Skill Swap, etc. though, I'm all for it, but some of these reasonings can be debunked.
 
Light Screen protects vs special attacks, and it is verse equalization via SBA. Safeguard also would work, again, SBA. Deoxys can also teleport around way more than sasuke can. Sasuke cannot spam his teleport, and with pressure, he can use it even less now. Pressure would double chakra usage for someone who already has terrible chakra reserves for the abilities they use. Psychic attacks would go beyond Susano, citing how gaara was able to grab madara out of his susano and toss him. Taunt would prevent the rinnegan abilities like absorbtion. If deoxys uses skill swap, he loses his rinnegan and sharingan, and if it uses role play, it gains them.
 
Light Screen specifically protects against offensive special attacks, like Fire Blast; it doesn't protect against moves like Hypnosis or Sing, so genjutsu would still pass through it.

I forgot what Safeguard was, though, and you're right on that point.

If he uses Skill Swap on Sasuke's eyes, though, he'd either gain one or the other. They're two seperate abilities. Still, I think Sasuke can simply dodge the effect via Amenotejikara.

Taunt doesn't last very long, though, and it's unlikely Deoxys will spam it every chance it gets.

Gaara was only able to grab Madara out of his Susano'o by exploiting the fact that in the form that Madara was using, it was open at ground level, and the Susano'o's creator can freely pass through its protection. Psychic attacks would have to get through Susano'o first, much in the same way that the move Psychic can't bypass Substitution.

Sasuke's chakra reserves are actually quite high. He's able to spam Rinnegan and Sharingan abilities easily when he fought Momoshiki with Naruto, using Amenotejikara multiple times over the course of the fight, including what were previously said to be massive chakra drains with Chibaku Tensei, Susano'o, Enton: Kagutsuchi. This being after he did something else that was supposedly a huge chakra drain, opening a portal to Kaguya's dimension, and holding it open long enough for more than just himself to pass through.

Pressure is a legitimate issue, but this Sasuke is far superior to his teenage self, who was able to use nine Chibaku Tensei at once, strong enough to hold all 9 tailed beasts after putting them under a Rinnegan Genjutsu, this after fighting a long, tiring battle with Madara and then Kaguya--and then right after that, with no rest, he fought a day-long deathmatch with Naruto where he spammed multiple Sharingan and Rinnegan abilities along with high-powered ninjutsu with zero issue whatsoever (only using chakra absorption when both were on their last leg).

The Chibaku Tensei feats are particularly impressive, because remember--in an attempt to capture the rampaging Kyuubi/Naruto, Nagato literally became a shrivelled, white-haired husk, shortening his lifespan drastically in an attempt to mold enough chakra to create a single Chibaku Tensei strong enough to hold the Nine Tails at full power, and failed miserably.

I think he can handle Pressure, tbh.
 
Matter of fact Sasuke genjutsus and calls it a day. Instantly. It want even knwo when Sasuke uses it in the first place so saying it will reflect it is a weak argument when Sasuke's genjutsu is instant and shows no signs of use and it's just by eye contact.
 
For the last time, Deoxys resists genjutsu. Featwise everything barring IT is inferior to an amped Drowzee which was resisted by a lone Gastly. Gastly can resist it, let alone Deoxys.
 
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