Demon vs Demon

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Again... he can't... hit Shinra-

 

[BakiHanma18]

Again... he can't... hit Shinra-

Definitely can. Baki uses 0.5 Seconds Consciousness and hits Shinra with Benda, and that'll basically kill him

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

He cant. Shinra has flight and passive stat amp

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Again, Instinctive Reaction, Info Analysis + Precog, and passive speed amp.

 

[BakiHanma18]

He cant. Shinra has flight and passive stat amp

But if he goes to fly (an action), 0.5 hits him before he can actually take off

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Thats not how 0.5 works

Baki only gets a better reaction speed than usual

 

[BakiHanma18]

Again, Instinctive Reaction, Info Analysis + Precog, and passive speed amp.

It wouldn't matter, 0.5 takes place between actions. Baki andvances toward him, Shinra reacts, and as he's reacting, Baki hits him

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Shinra doesnt need to react, his body automatically reacts alone for him because of Instinctice Reactions

 

[BakiHanma18]

Thats not how 0.5 works

Baki only gets a better reaction speed than usual

0.5 Second Unconscious: For a brief moment Baki causes an individual to be rendered unconscious for 0.5 by triggering them to motion with a brief movement where he is capable of attacking them freely.

^this is how it works

 

[BakiHanma18]

Shinra doesnt need to react, his body automatically reacts alone for him because of Instinctice Reactions

Even so, an action is taking place. A signal to move is being sent by the brain. That's all that Baki needs

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

By triggering them to do so, which Shinra won't via Info Analysis.

 

[BakiHanma18]

By triggering them to do so, which Shinra won't via Info Analysis.

1) He literally wouldn't be able to do anything if his brain doesn't send signals to his body

2) Stopping his brain from sending signals would require him to signal the brain to stop...

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Okay, so let assume Shinra gets knocked out. It doesn't matter. Why? Instinctive Reaction works on instinct, so he'd still be able to move whilst unconscious.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Okay, so let assume Shinra gets knocked out. It doesn't matter. Why? Instinctive Reaction works on instinct, so he'd still be able to move whilst unconscious.

No, I think you misunderstand what it does. 0.5 is a move that takes advantage of the time between when you decide to do something, and when you actually do it. When you brain is triggered by an event (something like a ball flying toward your face), your brain sends signals to your legs to move, or your arms to block or catch it. Baki can strike in between the moment one reacts. Basically, if Baki approaches and Shinra moves to attack, block, fly, etc, Baki can attack him right before he does it, making it impossible to react.

 

[BakiHanma18]

I can provide scans if visuals would help

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Then Shinra has no wincon.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Then Shinra has no wincon.

Hence why I had him at 7-A. At least there's a possibility that Baki doesn't lead with Benda and gets oneshot

 

[SpookyShadow]

I need to read more Baki, it seems sick later

 

[BakiHanma18]

I need to read more Baki, it seems sick later

Oh hell yeah, I'm about to post the 0.5 scans

 

[BakiHanma18]

Edit: I'm changing the Op back to 7-A vs 7-C

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

This is a mismatch, then

 

[SpookyShadow]

Baki's growth is interesting to me if he can match a 7-A guy

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

He cant match a 7-A guy tho

 

[SpookyShadow]

I'll find out if I read more Baki xD

 

[The_Calaca]

Speed amps can let a character to speed blitz in a speed equalized match as long as the character that it's using them is originally the fastest between the fighters.

Character X is normally MHS with a 10x speed amp. He's fighting Character Y who's FTL. Speed gets equalized to make it fair, but X uses his amp and starts blitzing Y. With this the match can't be added because X is getting favoured by the rules of the match so it's unfair for Y to get blitzed when he's usually faster.

If the case is the other way around and who has the speed amps is Y, then it's fair. He can speedblitz and the match can be added because he's using an advantage that he held before the match got the speed equal.

In other words, if Shinra can amp his speed, then he can win via speedblitz. He's faster than Baki.

But right now this is a stomp. 7-C vs 8-B is a massive difference.

 

[BakiHanma18]

https://youtu.be/s9pobKqqCTc

14:30-17:30

0.5 Seconds scans

 

[BakiHanma18]

Speed amps can let a character to speed blitz in a speed equalized match as long as the character that it's using them is originally the fastest between the fighters.

Character X is normally MHS with a 10x speed amp. He's fighting Character Y who's FTL. Speed gets equalized to make it fair, but X uses his amp and starts blitzing Y. With this the match can't be added because X is getting favoured by the rules of the match so it's unfair for Y to get blitzed when he's usually faster.

If the case is the other way around and who has the speed amps is Y, then it's fair. He can speedblitz and the match can be added because he's using an advantage that he held before the match got the speed equal.

In other words, if Shinra can amp his speed, then he can win via speedblitz. He's faster than Baki.

But right now this is a stomp. 7-C vs 8-B is a massive difference.

I changed the OP back to 7-C vs 7-A

 

[The_Calaca]

Care to explain me how is that any different? It's a stomp the other way around.

I don't even know why are you using those versions when both characters have 8-B keys that would make the match fair.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

He has an 8-B key?? Why didn't you just use that from the start?

 

[BakiHanma18]

Care to explain me how is that any different? It's a stomp the other way around.

I don't even know why are you using those versions when both characters have 8-B keys that would make the match fair.

Omg I'm trippin so hard didn't realize they both had 8-B keys

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Lol

 

[BakiHanma18]

Sorry guys 8-B keys are now used

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Okay, so Baki still has an AP advantage. Does he still have that 0.5 thing?

 

[The_Calaca]

Top 10 Biggest oofs in anime.

Number 1: The 8-B revelation.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Top 10 Biggest oofs in anime.

Number 1: The 8-B revelation.

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[BakiHanma18]

Okay, so Baki still has an AP advantage. Does he still have that 0.5 thing?

Yes, he used it first in his fight against Yujiro, which is the exact key being used (as in this key only applies to Baki during this one fight)

 

[BakiHanma18]

Btw, Baki in DB is an 18 kilotonner, where is Shinra at?

 

[The_Calaca]

His 8-B is 18 Tons but can enhance his power.

His 7-A is around 750 Megatons IIRC.

So what's Baki's 8-B AP?

 

[BakiHanma18]

His 8-B is 18 Tons but can enhance his power.

His 7-A is around 750 Megatons IIRC.

So what's Baki's 8-B AP?

I could be wrong, but I think Baki starts at 22 tons and can move up to 2.6 kilotons

 

[The_Calaca]

The Low 7-C and 7-C stats must be restricted. This is a 8-B fight. Otherwise, Baki one-shots.