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Demigra vs Teemo
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Err, Teemo might be 2-A soon (actually all the current 2-Bs might be 2-A soon).
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There's a 2-A statement?
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Yup, League got an infinite statement from Taric's story.
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Demigra mindhaxes and calls it a day.
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Wouldn't be the first.Quantu said:
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Wins via passive abilities the opponent doesnt resist are automatic stomps
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It's not passive, though it is one of Demigra's leading moves.
Anyway, Demigra does mindhax here.
Anyway, Demigra does mindhax here.
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Ah okay, then this is a who shoots first as Teemo can win just as easily via spamming sealing or summoning like half of his army which have hax that can oneshot Demigra
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Demigra...
thinks
thinks
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So does
Teemo
Teemo
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Does Teemo have a though based ability? If so, this seems inconclusive.
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Yes his sealing and summoning
Hang on lemme list how each of his summons could beat demigra
Hang on lemme list how each of his summons could beat demigra
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Eh, even if Teemo has thought based stuff, I'm still gonna have to side with Demigra...
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I'm still voting incon
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Demigra's ressurection will prevent him staying down. And he can spam clones even while sealed like in xenoverse when he summons them while still sealed in crack of time across the multiverse. Also he can break out of seals. So I say he counters sealing and any one shots, and will mind hax, or do his own sealing, or erase from timeline by killing him in the past since I dont see acausaltiy, or might be able to absorb him to. I think Demigra has this. But likely mind hax does it from the start.
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Amumu AoE stuns him and then touches him once which causes him to rot to death nigh-instantly
Fiddle drives Demigra insane with a glance, nulls his powers, and drains his life force
Galio passively nulls his magic
Lulu turns him into a 10-C squirrel and nulls his powers
Malzahar corrupts him into a voidborn
Morgana throws up anti-magic barriers and then drains his life force while rendering herself invulnerable
Veigar traps Demigra in an infinity between moments, rendering him incapacitated
Fiddle drives Demigra insane with a glance, nulls his powers, and drains his life force
Galio passively nulls his magic
Lulu turns him into a 10-C squirrel and nulls his powers
Malzahar corrupts him into a voidborn
Morgana throws up anti-magic barriers and then drains his life force while rendering herself invulnerable
Veigar traps Demigra in an infinity between moments, rendering him incapacitated
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@SSJ Teemo's sealing power nulls those sealed, rendering them unable to move, use active or passive abilities, or even the ability to think. Demigra isnt doing anything if he gets sealed.
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Demigra clones act even without him, as does his energy which can spawn clones to and trancends the multiverse outside space and time in the game, so they can still fight for him with all his abilities, so I don't see sealing working even if it can null him, which past attempts failed to do. Also his first move is mind control, so unless Teemo leads with sealing and gets it off first he wont get a chance.
Demigra is resistant to or can counter with his own mind manipulation, reality warping, corruptuion, time manip/paradoxes etc so none of that will work, and he just ressurects from death, and his energy and clones act on his behalf even if he is not commanding them.
In the end Demigra can counter all those moves, sealing might work but his clones and energy will quickly overtake Teemo who is occupied spamming sealing.
I gotta stick with Demigra due to counters for Teemo's skills and only needing to make one thought for the win, which his clones can do to btw, and energy passively can do.
Demigra is resistant to or can counter with his own mind manipulation, reality warping, corruptuion, time manip/paradoxes etc so none of that will work, and he just ressurects from death, and his energy and clones act on his behalf even if he is not commanding them.
In the end Demigra can counter all those moves, sealing might work but his clones and energy will quickly overtake Teemo who is occupied spamming sealing.
I gotta stick with Demigra due to counters for Teemo's skills and only needing to make one thought for the win, which his clones can do to btw, and energy passively can do.
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You had me up until passively via energy...
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@SSJ If Demigra gets sealed there will be no clones to fight for him and his energy would be nulled
Teemo can also seal the energy clones my dude
Teemo can also seal the energy clones my dude
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Also i'd love to see where Demigra has resisted being turned into a squirrel or having his magic nulled/absorbed
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lol, well agree to disagree on that for now. I'll eventually do a in depth thread on his skills, includin mind manip. The passive eenrgy thing happens in heroes so not alot of people here know much about it. But the rest is more than sufficient proof anyway imo for Demigra taking it.
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@SSJ I mean
You still have yet to explain why Demigra would be able to do nay of what you just said while he's nulled to the point where passive abilities and thoughts no longer work and he cant move
You still have yet to explain why Demigra would be able to do nay of what you just said while he's nulled to the point where passive abilities and thoughts no longer work and he cant move
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His energy and clones remain even after he is dead and not connected to them, or when sealed and left depowered in xenoverse, so it would not effect them if he had no connection to them, he can be brain dead and his power nulified and they will still remain and act for him till his return.
Teemo might be able to seal one guy temporarily, but he has never shown to seal a mass horde of guys at his level who can all mind hax him each witha thought, plus non corporeal sentient energy that cna do teh same and spam more clones, all with a single thought.
Its in his profile. He has Acausality, time manip, reality warping, corruption, ressitance to mind hax, resistance to power nulification etc. He can literally counter all Teemo's moves, and wins with a single thought for mind hax from him or one of his clones. And he leads with mind hax, liekly via a clone while moving his real body far away as a naturaly cautious and manipulative being, just liek he did multiple times in Xenoverse.
Even in death his residule energy can control people like in Xenoverse DLC and through Heroes.
Teemo might be able to seal one guy temporarily, but he has never shown to seal a mass horde of guys at his level who can all mind hax him each witha thought, plus non corporeal sentient energy that cna do teh same and spam more clones, all with a single thought.
Its in his profile. He has Acausality, time manip, reality warping, corruption, ressitance to mind hax, resistance to power nulification etc. He can literally counter all Teemo's moves, and wins with a single thought for mind hax from him or one of his clones. And he leads with mind hax, liekly via a clone while moving his real body far away as a naturaly cautious and manipulative being, just liek he did multiple times in Xenoverse.
Even in death his residule energy can control people like in Xenoverse DLC and through Heroes.
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Again, Teemo can seal the clones too, he has actually shown to be able to seal en-mass and be able to use multiple seals simultaneously. And yes it can seal non-corporeal beings and beings made of sentient energy
What you just isted covers half of the powers i actually listed
What you just isted covers half of the powers i actually listed
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Demigra has no counter for having his magic passively nulled or drained, no counter for being transmuted into a squirrel, no counter for his life force being drained, no counter for madness hax, and most importantly no counter for sealing
Although again, this is a 'who shoots first' outcome, hence why i agree its likely inconclusive
Although again, this is a 'who shoots first' outcome, hence why i agree its likely inconclusive
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Sorry but this stuff of a sealed mind etc is not stated on profile for tempered fate, and it seems to have a small delay based on the ability description I found for it to cast. And also it makes the foe invulnerable, so it is only a stall tactic, and it cost mana to so would eventually deplete. And I can't find proof of him using it en mass on people at his level succesfully in one thought. Only one clone or the real thing needs to think of mind control, I just see it as much more liekly that happens then Teemo catches all teh clones across the multiverse with tmepered fate adn can hold them all. But even if he can hed drain his mana and eventually have to release the skill. He even makes a monolouge before using it ""Bweooown bwooo fwooowm~ Star awhile and enjoy your [1] Tempered Fate"
https://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_Teemo
It even says they send magical energy to teh target to inflict them so not a thought from that at least.
I'm no expert on LoL but I'd need to see a clip of him sealign en mass other 2-B's with a thought tom accept this skill as your describing it.
The things you mentioned get countered by his own resistances and having the same powers as I outlined above I would think.
https://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_Teemo
It even says they send magical energy to teh target to inflict them so not a thought from that at least.
I'm no expert on LoL but I'd need to see a clip of him sealign en mass other 2-B's with a thought tom accept this skill as your describing it.
The things you mentioned get countered by his own resistances and having the same powers as I outlined above I would think.
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@Weekly you do know that Demigra is resistant to power null right?
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Tempered Fate in canon does not have a delay. It has a delay in-game for balancing purposes. Mana costs are 100% game mechanics. Its sealing, its incapacitation, and in lore its permanent.
You didnt list any resistances to anything i listed my dude.
You didnt list any resistances to anything i listed my dude.
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Not even I knew that. Heck, I'm not even doubting, I just need to look at profiles more lol.Theglassman12 said:
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I am not familiar with lore of LoL. The profile only says it seals and makes target invulnerable to, nothing on mind sealing, with a thought and permanent. I can only go by what the profile tells me. If you can provide the sealing feats I will certainly look at them though. Also this is if it works, he has resisted and broken sealing before from kai of time, and is resistant to power null, so it likely won't even work anyway.
Demigra has mind hax resistance, acausality and time manip of his own, reality warping, resistance to power null, life manipulation and soul manip of his own, corruption and resistance to it of his own, so that covers all teh bases of those skills. Also his ressurection stops kills from being useful.
For now though since Demigra and any clone can mind hax with a thought and are liekly to start with it, and Demigra has counters to Teemo techniques i'm sticking with Demigra. I'm going to sleep but if you can pull up the feats then I will certainly take a look.
Demigra has mind hax resistance, acausality and time manip of his own, reality warping, resistance to power null, life manipulation and soul manip of his own, corruption and resistance to it of his own, so that covers all teh bases of those skills. Also his ressurection stops kills from being useful.
For now though since Demigra and any clone can mind hax with a thought and are liekly to start with it, and Demigra has counters to Teemo techniques i'm sticking with Demigra. I'm going to sleep but if you can pull up the feats then I will certainly take a look.
